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Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:36 pm The 2017 campaign had more on cops than climate change. Clever campaigning, but not quite how some of his fans recall the campaign.

It would be interesting to know how effective abolishing student debt and loans was in piling up the votes for Labour in GE2017. Middle class voters don’t tend ask ‘where the money’s coming from?’ or worry about Labour ‘selling off all the gold’ when the goodies flow their way.

If I was him I'd stop messing around in politics and do the lottery every week. The amount of times he's on the right side of history, he'd be a billionaire by Christmas.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:17 am
It would be interesting to know how effective abolishing student debt and loans was in piling up the votes for Labour in GE2017. Middle class voters don’t tend ask ‘where the money’s coming from?’ or worry about Labour ‘selling off all the gold’ when the goodies flow their way.

I would think Jez did pretty well in both 2017 and 2019 with indebted students. IIRC he said it in 2017, but not 2019. So I'd guess not much. I'm wondering why Jez breaking a promise in an election is so different from Starmer having done it.

Lots of middle class people would have done well out of the £58bn WASPI fund that appeared after all the fully funded programme (ie some numbers on a page balanced). Don't think it shifted very many.

I would think Jez did pretty well in both 2017 and 2019 with indebted students.

I was thinking of aspirant parents under 50.

I have yet to see any member of the Labour right doing something like this or behaving like this

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:14 am I have yet to see any member of the Labour right doing something like this or behaving like this

'Eezer Goode 'Eezer Goode, he's Ebeneezer Goode.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:58 am

Enough for BUMSEX ???

They both have the facial expressions for it.

I call bullshit. That guy might have said "I love you Jeremy", but he would have replied "I love *me* too"

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:14 am I have yet to see any member of the Labour right doing something like this or behaving like this

No tongues were harmed in the making of this tweet

Corbyn actually said the NHS was up for grabs in a post Brexit trade deal. He may well have been right but that isn't what happened.

That's not to say of course that the government aren't doing unpopular privatizations of health within the existing framework, of course, though it would be nice if Howard put up a link. Actually I see it's an old tweet he's retweeted so it may have been clearer in the original context.

Corbyn said whatever they believed, both literally and also in their own minds.

And if he was right so what, he couldn’t do the very basics of actually leading hence why we ended up with a 80 seat Conservative majority that can do these things.

‘You can cut down all the flowers, but you cannot stop the coming of Spring.’ Not a Chauncey Gardener quote but from executed Chilean socialist poet Pablo Neruda. How dare she quote one of Jeremy’s heroes after snubbing his allotment tips.

Amazing. AOC doesn’t doff her cap to St. Jeremy, and now suddenly she’s not an ally.

It's almost like he's not at the forefront of her mind at all times. Fuckin' Tory.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:18 pm

‘You can cut down all the flowers, but you cannot stop the coming of Spring.’ Not a Chauncey Gardener quote but from executed Chilean socialist poet Pablo Neruda. How dare she quote one of Jeremy’s heroes after snubbing his allotment tips.

Aaron probably thinks Corbyn said that.

I wanted him to beat May and Bozo, but I can see how the "fuck off NATO allies, stop provoking Putin" might put a few people off.

People who don't want Corbynism now responsible for world injustice. Why is the world waiting for a lead from Jeremy Corbyn?

It should be easy to find out exactly how many people's politics are driven by a desire for vengeance against the Labour Party for destroying the hope of a more just world by looking at the Momentum membership list. That's how many.

Latest poll. I know the Greens had more in another one, but that doesn't suggest to me that the country is that full of idealistic leftwingers motivated by sticking it to Labour.