:sunglasses: 57.1 % :pray: 4.8 % :laughing: 28.6 % :poo: 9.5 %
By Youngian
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:36 pm The 2017 campaign had more on cops than climate change. Clever campaigning, but not quite how some of his fans recall the campaign.
It would be interesting to know how effective abolishing student debt and loans was in piling up the votes for Labour in GE2017. Middle class voters don’t tend ask ‘where the money’s coming from?’ or worry about Labour ‘selling off all the gold’ when the goodies flow their way.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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Youngian wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:17 am
It would be interesting to know how effective abolishing student debt and loans was in piling up the votes for Labour in GE2017. Middle class voters don’t tend ask ‘where the money’s coming from?’ or worry about Labour ‘selling off all the gold’ when the goodies flow their way.
I would think Jez did pretty well in both 2017 and 2019 with indebted students. IIRC he said it in 2017, but not 2019. So I'd guess not much. I'm wondering why Jez breaking a promise in an election is so different from Starmer having done it.

Lots of middle class people would have done well out of the £58bn WASPI fund that appeared after all the fully funded programme (ie some numbers on a page balanced). Don't think it shifted very many.
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By Watchman
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The Weeping Angel wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:14 am I have yet to see any member of the Labour right doing something like this or behaving like this


No tongues were harmed in the making of this tweet
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By Tubby Isaacs
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Corbyn actually said the NHS was up for grabs in a post Brexit trade deal. He may well have been right but that isn't what happened.

That's not to say of course that the government aren't doing unpopular privatizations of health within the existing framework, of course, though it would be nice if Howard put up a link. Actually I see it's an old tweet he's retweeted so it may have been clearer in the original context.

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By The Weeping Angel
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Youngian wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:18 pm


‘You can cut down all the flowers, but you cannot stop the coming of Spring.’ Not a Chauncey Gardener quote but from executed Chilean socialist poet Pablo Neruda. How dare she quote one of Jeremy’s heroes after snubbing his allotment tips.
Aaron probably thinks Corbyn said that.
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