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Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
John McDonnell has popped up to warn Starmer about letting in the far right by not being left wing enough.

Is this the same John McDonnell etc…?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:17 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Maybe it's me but I've never worked out the logic behind that thinking.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:20 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The Weeping Angel wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:17 pm Maybe it's me but I've never worked out the logic behind that thinking.
Probably because there isn't any.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:54 pm
by davidjay
Isn't it from the same idea that every time a leftist Labour party get battered at an election it's because they weren't left-wing enough?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Pete Willsman here with "woman gets job". I've never heard of Alice Genghis Khan, but fairplay, she's involved with a committee to do with the Labour Conference.

The Tory Businessman I think he's referring to used to be the Chair of Stonewall.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This goon isn't missed from Labour. What an absurd idea.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:57 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Labour considers non-dom tax plan that would raise £1bn less than initial pledge
Party may allow non-domiciles to live in Britain for four years before ending tax break, it is understood
This actually is fairly sensible, and something like what Ed Milliband proposed in 2015. It's in the country's financial interest to have people come from abroad to develop businesses. Given that the US, India, China and lots of other fast growing economies have lower tax rates than the UK, it's not exactly and incentive if they've got to pay UK tax on their worldwide income. They can also choose to live somewhere else lower tax and visit for 89 days (think this still applies) and be non-resident.

I don't know where they numbers come from. Well, they're from Labour, but I don't know where they get them from. Is the figure net of behaviour change?

The downside of course is that it's still treating people as special because they have money, which isn't a very nice principle. Even if it would be better than now and end the nonsense whereby people like Sunak's wife in effect move permanently but carry on paying less tax for as long as they like.

And of course Labour look stupid for what they said before.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:54 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I'm wary of this


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:10 pm
by kreuzberger
"The most trusted crypto exchange." Aren't they all...until the cocaine and hookers stories float to the top?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:13 am
by Youngian
kreuzberger wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:10 pm "The most trusted crypto exchange." Aren't they all...until the cocaine and hookers stories float to the top?
That happens soon after you’re on the front cover of Forbes being hailed as the business genius of the decade.
By all means schmooze with as many business top knobs as you can find at Davos but photo ops with cryptocurrency bosses is as unnecessary as it is unwise.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:17 am
by Philip Marlow
I don’t think coke and hookers were involved, but the example of Michael Lewis setting out to write a book about crypto miracle worker and revolutionary thinker Sam Bankman-Fried until his subject turned out to be…not that…does rather spring to mind.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:59 am
by Tubby Isaacs
This is extremely sad.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:39 am
by Andy McDandy
Pity. Seems like a thoroughly good egg.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:12 pm
by davidjay
I hope the link works because this is a wonderful piece:

Neil Kinnock: “It’s not 1992. Rishi Sunak is no John Major”

https://archive.ph/cVA25#selection-34387.0-34391.152

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:21 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
A big man.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:20 am
by Abernathy
Yes, a fine piece of journalism.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:28 am
by Youngian
Neil Kinnock: “It’s not 1992. Rishi Sunak is no John Major”

He’s not even as good as John Redwood.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:34 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
It's interesting that he referred to Major as 'an opponent' and not an enemy.

We've lost that...

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:14 pm
by Abernathy
Neil might well have added "and Keir Starmer is no Neil Kinnock."

Absolutely zero chance of a re-run of that hubristic rally in Sheffield with Keir in charge.

I remember being very much caught up in the excitement that we were surely going to win that '92 election, and being quite keen to go to Sheffield for the rally. In the end, I couldn't be arsed, but in retrospect that rally was when we realised that we had actually lost. :-(

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:17 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I remember cringing at 'Aaaalright!'