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Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:36 am Jez name checks the Great Game, which was the thing going on before the Americans created the Taliban in the Cold War. The only history man Corbyn resembles is Howard Kirk.

Hmmm.

Anyone who advocates any form of of Communism is an idiot to be ignored.

Have had his alternative to dealing with an attack on a NATO ally in 2001 yet? When I was at City University, we had John Pilger come to speak. His alternative was "intelligence". Not quite sure what that meant, but I recall we did something like it to kill Bin Laden later and Jez thought that was a "tragedy".

As Taylor Parkes said, Jez didn't so much leave Britain naked in the defence chamber as "fastened into a gimp mask with a horse-tail dangling out of its arse".

Yeah, it's very lazy thinking. Either America is putting itself about like the warmonger imperialist it is, or failing to do its duty as leader of the free world.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:55 pm Have had his alternative to dealing with an attack on a NATO ally in 2001 yet? When I was at City University, we had John Pilger come to speak. His alternative was "intelligence". Not quite sure what that meant, but I recall we did something like it to kill Bin Laden later and Jez thought that was a "tragedy".

As Taylor Parkes said, Jez didn't so much leave Britain naked in the defence chamber as "fastened into a gimp mask with a horse-tail dangling out of its arse".

This is one of the problems I have with I have with Corbyn, Pilger, Sultana etc. They have no answer on what they would do after 9/11 and the activation of article 5.

Nobody who says yeahbutiraq has an answer either.

PAR-TAY!!!!!

Momentum strategy with Super Dave Osborne

The USSR was famously unimperial. Or is that "state capitalism"?

I was reminded today that Jez had some proposals for the BBC.

https://www.ft.com/content/894e38e2-a62 ... 42fe5e173f

As ever, he's got a couple of good ideas, even if I don't like direct elections to the BBC board of governors. That's going to be Farage shitfest every time. He's at least better than James Cleverley though.

James Cleverly, the Conservative party deputy chairman said Labour were demonstrating they did not know how to handle the economy.

“Tech companies would just put up their prices and pass this internet tax straight onto families and businesses across the country — adding more pressure to weekly bills,” he said.

The idea of this levy is that it reduces the cost of what needs to be raised by the licence fee. So if indeed it does all get passed on to consumers, the consumers would still be no worse off.

Is this like Robbie launching his solo career after Take That?

Is this true? Why would an independent MP (who will presumably be standing against the Labour Party at the next election) be addressing Conference?

Oboogie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:11 pm Is this true? Why would an independent MP (who will presumably be standing against the Labour Party at the next election) be addressing Conference?

My thoughts exactly. Although I suppose he is technically still a Labour member.

He’s not addressing conference but this sorry looking line-up

No dialectical materialism workshop with Ted Grant. Lightweights.

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:20 pm He’s not addressing conference but this sorry looking line-up

Few people fussing about Drakeford speaking. I'm entirely in favour if attendees think "I could be like him if I put my big boy trousers on".

I'm not Jon Trickett's biggest fan, but he ought to be above a few of them names on there. Jess Barnard is the chair of Young Labour, who are living up to every stereotype. Poor old Jon will feel relieved there isn't a puppet show happening.

Full marks for Good Intentions, but sadly none of that is likely to win back the Mansfields and Stoke-on-Trents of this world.

Interesting to see Drakeford appearing on the same bill as "Scotland's Indy Ref 2: Scenario Workshop", although in fairness I suppose a title like that could mean anything.

It's a pretty large event, so I expect Drakeford will be as about as near to that as he will be to Ken Loach.

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:20 pm He’s not addressing conference but this sorry looking line-up

No dialectical materialism workshop with Ted Grant. Lightweights.

On a purely aesthetic front, having an acronym as your logo that basically says TWAT is a bold choice...

Just thought about the hail marys that Jez chucked in the last election, and how they might be a problem for Labour later.

https://fullfact.org/election-2019/what ... ug-prices/

Jeremy Corbyn has said this is “trade-negotiator speak for it being at a very advanced stage”, and the document from July 2019 states that discussions in a number of issues such as intellectual property are “well advanced”—although it remains unclear whether any agreement has actually been reached in this area.

So the documents show that, as expected, drug patents are a US negotiating objective in trade talks. But they don't clearly show us what, if anything, the UK has actually agreed.

In fairness to him, some of the text sounds like he says.

But I've never thought there's anything for Johnson in going down this road. Trade deals with the US were talked about so that Brexit didn't just sound like a vote to keep out Poles. Liz Truss is painlessly rolling deals over and looking dynamic, but does anybody particularly care about wide ranging news deals with the US? I think this one's going to sit there at the next election, with Johnson/whoever saying "This is what Labour said in 2019. Where's this drugs deal they talked about then?"