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I presume he's delighted that the Afghans have freed themselves from the Fascist Western oppressors.

Tesco is unionised.

As are Sainsbury's, Morrisons, Wilko, Ocado, Asda, Waitrose...

A co-op isn't a union though?

How do you deliver a regular sized shopping order on a bike? Does the delivery biker go back to the depot after each order? How can that be price competitive and pay good wages? However bad supermarkets are, they do provide cheap food for people with very little money.

I mean, it's nice to support a local co-op, but don't talk it up like it's a serious alternative to supermarkets.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:29 pm As if by magic...

Fun fact: the lead actor in I, Daniel Blake, comedian Dave Johns, did a gig at my uni (this being many years before the film, obviously). The groups he took the piss out of included people with eating disorders, obese people, women in general, gay people and lazy students. He was an absolute cunt, rude and arrogant to the union staff who booked him (he clearly thought uni gigs were beneath him) and not particularly funny with it, his jokes largely being mocking and cruel rather than, say, Jimmy Carr style. And given I saw him do part of the same routine on TV a couple of years later on an upcoming comedian talent show (that he didn't progress through), I'd guess it was his usual routine rather than a one-off bad night where he decided to try some new edgy material.

So yeah, Loach can fuck off and Corbyn can take his blind demands for respect with him. He clearly doesn't have qualms about using people in his bleakporn films before looking into who they are and what they've said.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:29 pm As if by magic...

Jimmy Savile raised £40 million for charity, does he deserve our respect and solidarity too?

Those refugees then? One lesson would seem to be that they're scared shitless of living under the people who were in charge before and are in charge now.

But you know neoliberal imperialism.

Been reminded of this cracker from 1986. Jez does Chinese history.

Mr. Corbyn The hon. Gentleman obviously did not do enough history at St. Andrews while he was enjoying the benefits of a publicly funded education. His analysis of Chinese history is as cock-eyed as his analysis of British history. He should realise that the appalling social conditions in Hong Kong are the result of deregulated unbridled capitalism. The conditions enjoyed by people in China now, compared to 1948, are immeasurably better. 714The country has pulled itself up without the assistance of anybody else, but by collectivising its economy, its efforts and its energy.
Starvation and poverty are not common in China as they were in 1948. Before the hon. Gentleman lectures the world on the way in which capitalism can improve living standards he should look at some of the countries which had to develop their own economies without the assistance of anybody else. I know that Conservative Members are now going on a "love China" spree. They should remember that the present prosperity in China is based upon a collective economy and not on an individual and market oriented economy.

§Mr. Trippier If that is the case, why do we not have people queuing up in Hong Kong trying to get back to Communist China?

Bit later, he does some election, showing that he didn't start talking rubbish on this subject in 2017.

Mr. Cash The consequence was fed through, to answer the point made by the hon. Member for Fulham (Mr. Raynsford). It is a tribute to the realism of the British people that by 1983, when asked, they returned the Government with the most massive majority.
§Mr. Corbyn What a curious view of history the hon. Gentleman has. I seem to recall the 1983 general election campaign being dominated, as usual, by a number of sycophantic newspapers with gung-ho chauvinism about the Falklands unprecedented in modern times, which resulted in a swing against the Tories. The election in 1983 was not a great victory for the Tory party. It had fewer votes then than in 1979. If we take the pattern of history forward, the hon. Gentleman may lose his seat, and we can look forward to having once again a Labour Member for Stafford.

Tory Majority in 1979- 43
Tory Majority in 1983- 144

"Pattern of history" suggested Bill Cash was safe for a while in Stafford.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:51 pm "Pattern of history" suggested Bill Cash was safe for a while in Stafford.

In fairness to Corbyn, Stafford did indeed return a Labour MP in 1997*, and stuck with him right the way through to 2010.

Unfortunately for Corbyn, by the time he was finished as Labour leader following GE2019, Stafford was as safe for the Tories as it had been way back in 1983.

*Extra marks if you can name who the defeated Tory candidate was in 1997. Let's just say the local farmers had to make sure their pigsties were extra secure that particular year.

I only know because I looked up Stafford earlier.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:56 am I only know because I looked up Stafford earlier.

The 1997 result in Stafford looks like a desperate warning from the future: Cameron, the Referendum Party and, most presciently of all, the Monster Raving Loonies.

This is a new one from a Jezz fan on FB. Voters overawed by Corbyn’s intellect.

The problem with Jeremy Corbyn, like with most smart people, is that he makes ordinary people feel dumb, so ordinary people don't like him.

Nah. He's what a really thick person thinks a clever person* looks like.





*If you think a geography supply teacher is a clever person.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:51 am This is a new one from a Jezz fan on FB. Voters overawed by Corbyn’s intellect.

The problem with Jeremy Corbyn, like with most smart people, is that he makes ordinary people feel dumb, so ordinary people don't like him.

It certainly is a new one. I've never thought of Corbyn as anything but disappointingly thick. Not quite Burgon-level dim, but getting there.

The political heavyweight champion of the poor who came up with a manifesto that was to the right of Tim Farron on benefits and tax.

Jez name checks the Great Game, which was the thing going on before the Americans created the Taliban in the Cold War. The only history man Corbyn resembles is Howard Kirk.

Trite twat tweets.

"Erudite" guy running on the principle that wars are wrong just by being "foreign".