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Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It's happening.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:24 pm
by kreuzberger
Anyone who has ever been to Rutherglen would be hard-pressed to agree that their greatest encumbered is Margaret Ferrier.

The drugs are cheaper than a steak-bake but I'm not sure that there is even a Greggs there. It's a toilet.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:03 pm
by mattomac
I ended up in one of the worst places in Glasgow when we went there (The type Irvine Welsh uses for his worst scenes and it is probably had more visits from Ken Stott than any other place in the country including his own house) and even that had a Greggs.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:37 am
by Abernathy
Irvine Welsh tends to set his scenes, including his worst ones, mostly in Edinburgh, not Glasgow.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:14 am
by MisterMuncher
Leith.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:20 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Rutherglen is a bigger town than I thought it must be. 30,000 people. Probably thought it was smaller because I haven't heard of a football team from there.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:29 pm
by kreuzberger
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:20 am ... I haven't heard of a football team from there.
I am probably on shaky ground here, but I think that Clyde FC played at Shawfield Stadium in the Burgh until around the mid-eighties.

I never went to a game, but there was once a night at Shawfield involving tons of booze and a few dog races.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:42 pm
by mattomac
Abernathy wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:37 am Irvine Welsh tends to set his scenes, including his worst ones, mostly in Edinburgh, not Glasgow.
Ah this was Glasgow though, I’ve never been near the rough areas of Edinburgh, then again Rebus isn’t Welsh is it, that’s probably my mistake.

Those housing scheme outdoor scenes were actually shot in Easterhouse. Presumably, that was a decision made by Danny Boyle but which Welsh then endorsed.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:47 pm
by Andy McDandy
If you want rough Glasgow, try Taggart or Iain Banks.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
kreuzberger wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:29 pm
I am probably on shaky ground here, but I think that Clyde FC played at Shawfield Stadium in the Burgh until around the mid-eighties.

I never went to a game, but there was once a night at Shawfield involving tons of booze and a few dog races.
I always muddled Clyde up with Clydebank. At least it's harder to make that mistake now.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:40 pm
by davidjay
MisterMuncher wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:14 amLeith.
I've not been there for some time but a few years ago it seemed as though the regeneration money had run out halfway through, so you had tenement blocks next to loft developments and Michelin restaurants sandwiched between an offy and a bookies.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:19 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:20 am Rutherglen is a bigger town than I thought it must be. 30,000 people. Probably thought it was smaller because I haven't heard of a football team from there.
'mon the Glencairn!!

Rutherglen was a Royal Burgh before betting absorbed into Glasgow.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:22 pm
by Bones McCoy
kreuzberger wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:29 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:20 am ... I haven't heard of a football team from there.
I am probably on shaky ground here, but I think that Clyde FC played at Shawfield Stadium in the Burgh until around the mid-eighties.

I never went to a game, but there was once a night at Shawfield involving tons of booze and a few dog races.
At the end of the Eighties Shawfield hosted Clyde, Glasgow's American football teams and the Speedway.
I think the dogs are back now, and the other tenants have moved on.

The M74 has rather isolated Shawfield and the surrounding desolation form Rutherglen now.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:23 pm
by Bones McCoy
mattomac wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:42 pm
Abernathy wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:37 am Irvine Welsh tends to set his scenes, including his worst ones, mostly in Edinburgh, not Glasgow.
Ah this was Glasgow though, I’ve never been near the rough areas of Edinburgh, then again Rebus isn’t Welsh is it, that’s probably my mistake.

Those housing scheme outdoor scenes were actually shot in Easterhouse. Presumably, that was a decision made by Danny Boyle but which Welsh then endorsed.
The scene where they shoot the dog with an air rifle was Rouken Glen park.
The poshest park in posh East Renfrewshire.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Eastwood, the predecessor of East Renfrewshire, was a rare safe Tory seat in Scotland back in the day. Even in the Poll Tax disaster election of 1987, they won it by over 6,000. What sort of Tory voters are/ were these?

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:10 pm
by kreuzberger
That's the posh bit to the south / south west of the city. Newton Mearns, Eaglesham, Giffnock annat where people like Michelle Mone live, unless they need to make a sharp exit.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:27 am
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:36 pm Eastwood, the predecessor of East Renfrewshire, was a rare safe Tory seat in Scotland back in the day. Even in the Poll Tax disaster election of 1987, they won it by over 6,000. What sort of Tory voters are/ were these?
Eastwood had the first or second british outlet of (I forget the name) a california Wholefood / Fresh food supermarket.
I dropped in for a nosey when having a tyre replaced.

Loaves at £2.50 when similar size ones were about 60p at Sainsburys.
Potatoes (Organic) at 3 quid a pound.
Potatoes (Organic) covered in dirt at £3.60 a pound.

If Harry Enfield wanted inspiration for a sketch about overpriced goods and housewives with more money than sense, he could have started here.

The place went bust, and there were rumours of a new Waitrose opening in its place.
When the new tenant turned out to be LIDL, residents, encouraged by wanker MP Jackson Carslaw raised a petition to protest.

Where are they now.
LIDL is doing a roaring trade.
Less well heeled residents can actually aford the food that's for sale in their district.
Jackson Carslaw's raising a petition to protest against parliamentary boundary changes which will add less well heeled neighbourhoods to his constituency.

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:31 am
by mattomac
Seems the battle lines have been drawn.

SNP started out on the child benefit thing but of course got asked what they are doing about it so have gone back to Independence, assuming this is the position they will take in the GE it will be interesting to see if can get them over the line.

I feel Labour are probably most of the 11k who submitted the recall however it’s still an impressively high number for something not massively promoted. You have to remember at an election you’ve forgot press and leaflets this would have had nothing during a summer holiday

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:45 pm
by The Weeping Angel

Re: Hamilton West and Rutherglen by election

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:57 pm
by mattomac
I see the Labour candidate has taken the lines of Scottish Labour, I do think Beales sopping to ULEZ protest late on didn’t help him.

It’s also cut off the SNP attack as they keep saying he will be Starmer’s man when he has elected and yet he quite clearly shows he isn’t.

I’ve said Scottish Labour with their decent leader should take most of this campaign, see if they can get Gordon out shaking a few hands.