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From what I read about "right on culture", this lot must be on about 40% in the polls. In the meantime, here's the leader with "bloke who gets bucket loads of shit for being a Muslim is the real racist".

I take these lot aren't like the SDP of the 80s?

They proport to be. https://twitter.com/SDPhq

Rod Lidl's a member. Extrapolate from there.

They're just Spiked faux-libertarians. Act like jerks to everyone (unless they can be tapped for a few quid), and fall back on "free speech" defence.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:09 pm I take these lot aren't like the SDP of the 80s?

They're the "left on economics, right on culture" sort, though the emphasis on the left economics isn't exactly very big. They've got an electoral pact with the "left on economics" Reform Party of Red Richard Tice and Nigel "Trotsky" Farage.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:20 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:09 pm I take these lot aren't like the SDP of the 80s?

They're the "left on economics, right on culture" sort, though the emphasis on the left economics isn't exactly very big. They've got an electoral pact with the "left on economics" Reform Party of Red Richard Tice and Nigel "Trotsky" Farage.

Jesus, is there any abandoned political hulk that the alt-right haven't defiled?

Leaving aside the bollocks about 136,000 mums...

What sort of party? One that wanted to sell expensive courses to highly skilled people, perhaps? And charged them also for visas and the NHS while they were here. And one that understood that its own highly skilled people might wish to do the same abroad?

I gather that lots in that party want to stop this sensible stuff, in fairness.

As I anecdote earlier this week, dependents are largely spouses and children.

Yeah. Some of those spouses will be very employable in their own right, if we let them work, which we probably don't.

They will probably be very well off, the ones I know who brought their families over are, the ones who didn’t are not.

The party reads like a tribute act to the old industrial Labour right, lots of woke stuff for you like collective bargaining and subsidised jobs for life at British Leyland but nothing for anyone else to help their advancement. Fortunately few people are like that as economic stability builds contentment apart from retired Mail readers. They don’t do social contract politics, just the bitterness towards people not like them doing well.

Strikes me as Johnsonism for people a bit too oafish for the Carlton club.