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Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 11:39 am
by Tubby Isaacs
"Blair fucked up the constitution" is a bit of a UK right meme too. By which they seem to mean that he set up the Supreme Court.

In th meantime, here's Rachel Reeves with some bollocks.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:01 pm
by Youngian
Dan Neidle sounds somewhat dramatic about how British ISAs will be a disaster distorting stock markets. Passed evidence shows patriotic marketing is a damp squib and just a niche like green investment but less successful.
How many flag shaggers with spare money to invest would take a financial hit to express their patriotism?

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Lying liars telling lies. And what's it got to do with tax anyway? Are they trying to imply Starmer doesn't pay any on his pension?


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 1:51 pm
by Crabcakes
Nailed it:


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 2:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Scottish National party candidate competing to hold Lothian East, a seat the party won from Labour in 2019, has suddenly stepped down without any clear explanation.

Iain Whyte, who has spent his career inside the SNP, including in government, deleted all his social media accounts over the weekend and has been very quickly replaced by Lyn Jardine, a local councillor, the Record reported.
Maybe something to this, maybe not.

Even though I'm sceptical of the projections for Labour in Scotland, this is one seat that they ought to gain. Alba, Greens and SNP are all standing, and nearly 64% voted for unionist parties last time.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 3:23 pm
by Youngian
Looks like the Lib Dem’s are not only running a paper candidate against Sunak but designing Labour’s leaflets

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 3:27 pm
by Andy McDandy
Can't be a LD leaflet. The columns are roughly in proportion.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 5:00 pm
by Youngian
‘Got a pic at my mate’s wedding, I could crop it and send it over.’

He’ll be vying with Reform for fourth place behind the Greens.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 6:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Won't he come third on the back of the Cambridge congestion charge thing?

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 6:56 pm
by Abernathy
What is it with Labour people all being asked whether they'd call themselves socialist?

Starmer said yes, he would, Reeves said that she is a Social Democrat, and Jonathan Reynolds said he was a "Christian Democrat".

What are they playing at? Labour is a party with socialists in it. I sense they're trying to catch us out, but I don't really understand how.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 6:57 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Providing ammunition for The Mail and The Telegraph. That's all.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:47 pm
by Yug
"Socialist" has become something of a go-to playground insult among the American Right, who, of course, have absolutely no idea what it means.

As the British Right, both in politics and in the press, are kissing the Yanks' arses and copying everything tbey do...

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:58 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 6:28 pm Won't he come third on the back of the Cambridge congestion charge thing?
Yes, a Cambridge Labour councillor also made that very point when I suggested fourth.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:00 pm
by Youngian
Abernathy wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 6:56 pm What is it with Labour people all being asked whether they'd call themselves socialist?

Starmer said yes, he would, Reeves said that she is a Social Democrat, and Jonathan Reynolds said he was a "Christian Democrat".

What are they playing at? Labour is a party with socialists in it. I sense they're trying to catch us out, but I don't really understand how.
Tiresome R4Today wouldn’t leave this one alone this morning.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:06 pm
by Spoonman



Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
There’s another which is only 12 points, but that’s one of those which predicts a lot of don’t knows going back to the Tories.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:25 pm
by Spoonman
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:14 pm There’s another which is only 12 points, but that’s one of those which predicts a lot of don’t knows going back to the Tories.
This one?


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:26 pm
by kreuzberger
Youngian wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:00 pm
Abernathy wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 6:56 pm What is it with Labour people all being asked whether they'd call themselves socialist?

Starmer said yes, he would, Reeves said that she is a Social Democrat, and Jonathan Reynolds said he was a "Christian Democrat".

What are they playing at? Labour is a party with socialists in it. I sense they're trying to catch us out, but I don't really understand how.
Tiresome R4Today wouldn’t leave this one alone this morning.
That was the old Telegraph staffer, Emma Barnett, right?

She seemed firm in her belief that she had reached a Pulitzer-winning peak with "dogs or cats, Pepsi or Coke? Why do you hate dogs and Pepsi?"

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:45 pm
by Youngian
Find Barnett an engaging combative broadcaster and doesn’t need to overreach with this sort of piffle. Expect no better from Justin Webb.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 9:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Spoonman wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:25 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:14 pm There’s another which is only 12 points, but that’s one of those which predicts a lot of don’t knows going back to the Tories.
This one?
Yep.

It's about the same as the Opinium poll the other day, which used similar methods. So no progress at all.