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satnav wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:34 pm Tonight's party political broadcast by the Tories was a 5 minute silent film with just the words 'Britain is broke, Britain needs Reform'. Is this really all they have got? No policies, just a bland statement.

You mean reform…. Though I understand the confusion.

Are the Tories attacking Reform much? Seems like they're missing a trick if they aren't. They're going for Starmer like he's a naive lefty who'd give in to Putin. Why not Farage?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:53 pm Are the Tories attacking Reform much? Seems like they're missing a trick if they aren't. They're going for Starmer like he's a naive lefty who'd give in to Putin. Why not Farage?

Would you risk alienating your next boss?

Nigel Farage's new shtick of claiming he wants to lead the opposition seems to be an attempt to avoid any proper scrutiny of the party's ridiculous manifesto.

Axis of evil

Farage is demanding to be allowed to take part in the debates with Sunak and Starmer yet so far he has ducked out of doing an interview with Nick Robinson. He would face a lot more scrutiny in a 30 minute one to one interview than he would in a debate with the other major party leaders.

For shits and giggles, they should agree but only on condition that, say, Michelle O'Neill gets a podium too. After all, she leads a party that have won actual seats.

Youngian wrote:Axis of evil

Axis of weasel

Says a lot about Farage, he thinks facts are propaganda by clever people until they go his way.
And that everyone must think like him in fearing empirical evidence if it doesn’t back up their prejudices. Homer counties Simpson.

Manfrog doesn't understand averages. There isn't one person turning up every minute. They arrive in groups. Whole days, or even weeks, can go by without any turning up at all.

So bollocks to the frog-faced cunt.

The Limey himself is so proud of his lead
In novels and plays that he won't watch or read.

He slaughtered and stole and an empire he gained,
Of which a few islands are all he's retained.

The English, alas, don't pass critical looking
(And notice that nobody's mentioned their cooking!)

At least we won’t see or hear from FrogFace today…….too busy frapping himself into a coma over Trooping The Colours

I suspect his concern for the king, army or country is about as shallow as his gene pool. Anything to sell the snake oil.

Is it worth analysing the different electoral outcomes for Reform.

1. No seats - back to the margins, scream "so unfair" from the sidelines.

2. Farage alone elected - Nice little earner, pop in at your leisure and say the unsayable.

3. Farage and 10 or more MPs - Farage now has to herd this mob of misfits and weirdoes.


Farage alone seems like his optimal outcome.


Any others?
Any disagreement.

Maybe I’m reading this wrong but Reform are proposing to subsidise private health care by defaulting on public debt.
Who did Farage get pissed with when he wrote this on a fag packet? A former Greek or Argentinian finance minister, Bernie Madoff, Richard Murphy?

Thought for the day.

Twitter hides "like chains" just before Reform declares its slate of candidates.

Three weeks ago it would have been a simple matter to see who a specific candidate liked.
If one had given 2,000 likes and 1,800 were to various fascist organisations, now we will never know.

Longer term, it'll be slightly harder to trace the Fash org-chart, and create those diagrams like Rock Family Trees.
Nothing we can't overcome, but it'll tae longer and require more resource to check out wrong-uns.

Bones McCoy wrote:Is it worth analysing the different electoral outcomes for Reform.

1. No seats - back to the margins, scream "so unfair" from the sidelines.

2. Farage alone elected - Nice little earner, pop in at your leisure and say the unsayable.

3. Farage and 10 or more MPs - Farage now has to herd this mob of misfits and weirdoes.


Farage alone seems like his optimal outcome.

Any others?
Any disagreement.

Three weeks ago Farage was ready to feck off America to help his pal. Now he says he wants to be PM in 5 years. There is nothing in his past to suggest he is willing to be anything other than a grifter looking for his next media opportunity and way to make a fast buck .

He's had a few articles published over the weekend. Suddenly sounding very authoritarian, full of himself, arrogant and all traces of the man of the people act gone.

Conservativehome Today:

Two articles that show Tories have given up ...

Neither side in the looming Tory wars is yet prepared to be honest about why it failed

https://conservativehome.com/2024/06/17 ... it-failed/



And are seeking a new pied piper ...

Nigel Farage: My message to ConservativeHome readers – it’s time to join the revolt

https://conservativehome.com/2024/06/17 ... he-revolt/