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Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 6:42 pm
by Philip Marlow
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ggpe3qj6wo.amp
The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) has applied for arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas's leader in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, for war crimes.
A range of extraordinarily normal reactions have followed.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Reactions such as "what about Hamas?", no doubt.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:02 pm
by Oboogie
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 7:13 pm Reactions such as "what about Hamas?", no doubt.
Hamas are included.

"The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) has applied for arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas's leader in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, for war crimes.

Karim Khan KC said there were reasonable grounds to believe that both men bore criminal responsibility for war crimes and crimes against humanity from the day of Hamas's attack on Israel on 7 October onwards.

Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant and Hamas's political leader Ismail Haniyeh, along with the group's military chief Mohammed Deif, are also wanted for arrest."

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:04 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Oboogie wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 8:02 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 7:13 pm Reactions such as "what about Hamas?", no doubt.
Hamas are included.
That was my joke.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:29 pm
by Philip Marlow
This is the most aggressively unhinged reaction I’ve seen so far, but then I’ll confess that I haven’t looked all that hard.

https://x.com/CarolineGlick/status/1792 ... gr%5Etweet

Biden and Blinken appear to be going with ‘How dare the court suggest there is any equivalence between Israel and the terrorists!’ Partly because that’s always what gets said in these circs, and partly because, if Netanyahu has a case to answer, then that presents the possibility that Biden and Blinken have been facilitating the supply of weaponry and treasure to a state in the midst of committing war crimes. This would never happen, for Biden and Blinken are honourable men…

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:51 pm
by Rosvanian
Not of heard of Glick before. I suspect new opportunities churning out similarly rational, nuanced, insightful commentary for the likes of Spiked and Unherd await her.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 8:38 am
by Philip Marlow
RULES BASED INTERNATIONAL ORDER

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/artic ... -red-lines
The US and the UK will reject the international court of justice order directing Israel to end its offensive on Rafah after slowly blurring their red lines that once stated that they could not support a military offensive in Rafah.

The line was first adapted by saying they could not support a major ground offensive without a credible plan to protect civilians, but since then the definition of what constitutes a major offensive has become more flexible.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:43 pm
by Philip Marlow
I don’t express sincere admiration as readily as I should, perhaps, but someone escaping Gaza with her children, only to voluntarily go back alone is something else to me, in the bravery stakes.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2024/june/blood-and-numbers
Marwa lived through shelling in Gaza City with her daughters. In late November, she walked for ten hours, through bombed-out buildings and dead bodies, to get her daughters to safety with their father in Jordan. She returned to Gaza to resume her work with a humanitarian organisation earlier this year.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:49 am
by Philip Marlow
Grim stuff from Haaretz. Said it before on here, but the fact that Netanyahu has essentially been able to tell the last two Democratic presidents of Israel’s most important ally to fuck themselves, repeatedly, without fear of meaningful consequences is pretty darned astonishing.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... e717240000
That it took the United States over eight months of being swindled and conned by a man they know and have studied for over 15 years is nothing short of staggering. The idea that the United States seriously thought it could partner, trust, rely on, rein in and expect different behavior from a man who for years has exercised mendacity and manipulation as his default mode – and exhibits derision toward the United States – is located on a spectrum anywhere between naivete and gullibility, flawed and arrogant assessments, or full and inexcusable diplomatic negligence.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:59 pm
by Philip Marlow
…And Adam Shatz brings his usual parcel of cheery news to the LRB.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n12 ... -s-descent
Over the last eight months, Israel has killed more than 36,000 Palestinians. An untold number remain under the debris and still more will die of hunger and disease. Eighty thousand Palestinians have been injured, many of them permanently maimed. Children whose parents – whose entire families – have been killed constitute a new population sub-group. Israel has destroyed Gaza’s housing infrastructure, its hospitals and all its universities. Most of Gaza’s 2.3 million residents have been displaced, some of them repeatedly; many have fled to ‘safe’ areas only to be bombed there. No one has been spared: aid workers, journalists and medics have been killed in record numbers. And as levels of starvation have risen, Israel has created one obstacle after another to the provision of food, all while insisting that its army is the ‘most moral’ in the world. The images from Gaza – widely available on TikTok, which Israel’s supporters in the US have tried to ban, and on Al Jazeera, whose Jerusalem office was shut down by the Israeli government – tell a different story, one of famished Palestinians killed outside aid trucks on Al-Rashid Street in February; of tent-dwellers in Rafah burned alive in Israeli air strikes; of women and children subsisting on 245 calories a day. This is what Benjamin Netanyahu describes as ‘the victory of Judaeo-Christian civilisation against barbarism’.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:45 am
by Philip Marlow
Cometh the miserable hour, Cometh The Baffler, bringing unhappiness both specific and general.

https://thebaffler.com/latest/running-amok-turfah

Specific
In a video, a soldier shares a revelation, “I’m going through these terrorists’ houses looking for guns and explosives . . . at every single house”—he can hardly contain his excitement—“inside of Gaza this is what I see. Every single—unbelievable.” He opens a dresser, narrating, “Two or three drawers stuffed with the most, ehh, exotic lingerie that you can imagine. Just piles of it. Every single house. Stuffed to the brim! Look at that!” he says, dipping in a hand, lacing his fingers through it, “Unbelieeevaboh,” his British accent thickening. He adds, following a strange grunting sound, “These naughty, naughty Gazans.” The video, shared as an Instagram story, includes a poll: the prompt is “WHAT DYA THINK,” and viewers choose from the following: (1) Kinky terrorism, (2) Wtf, (3) Halal, (4) Haram.
The soldier in question is Levi Simon and the video itself - if you chuck in some additional context and have a decidedly darker sense of humour - funny.

About a month before said video came to light, Jewish News published an article (https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/stay-stron ... ill-be-ok/) interviewing the parents of diaspora Jews who had gone to fight with the IDF. Simon’s mother provided much stirring material about the young lad and his sense of duty to his people and to Israel, the fine qualities his service has developed in him etc. To compare this, scant weeks later, with self-posted footage of him pawing though bedroom drawers, waving around what look to me like perfectly ordinary items of women’s underwear as if they were the contents of a particularly outré bondage dungeon is quite the contrast.

General
While many viewers might find this content disturbing, they are not the target audience. In Israel, where a majority opposes a ceasefire and supports starving Gaza, this content is, on the whole, incredibly well-received. It offers the folks back home an image of fortified dominance, the illusion of control. In March 2024, the liberal Zionist daily Haaretz detailed, in a report titled, “We’re Not Only Here to Fuck Hamas,” how battlefield imagery has flooded online dating profiles in Israel. Beyond its sexual currency, this content, like the torture of Palestinians aired on mainstream Israeli television, functions as entertainment. Telegram channels sharing graphic images of dead or dying Palestinians—and foreign aid workers—have amassed hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
I was talking to an ex army - British rather than Israeli - friend of mine about this, because I’ve long suspected that if the desire was there, top brass could make it very clear to the rank and file that an immensely dim view would be taken of putting this stuff online. It can’t do the ‘most moral army in the world’ branding much good for starters. Perhaps the above is a partial explanation of why no one much seems to care.

Brave new world though, innit? I can still remember a time when the excesses of an invading army would come to light through the intrepid work of investigative journalists, aided, perhaps, by some of those selfsame soldiers, who found themselves tormented by the things they’d witnessed and maybe participated in. Now it’s just content, cheerfully whacked up on Facebook or TikTok for all to enjoy.