- Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:57 pm
#46735
The thing with CF isn't that it's strong as such. It's incredibly strong in the directions it is designed to handle at the layup phase but fucking marginal *at best* once forces go off-axis. As such, it really, really doesn't like to be clamped, as that's a force in all directions. Bike components will usually have a clamping torque spec of somewhere between 5 and 8NM, which is not a huge amount of force, but when you're applying that force with a typical 4mm Allen key, it's fine, it's just a bit more that snug. For comparison, torque to fit pedals into cranks (metal to metal, even "carbon" cranks have threaded metal inserts) is around 3-5 times that. Once you get out of the designed clamping areas*, things get sketchy very quick. You wouldn't believe how easy and quick it is to write off a £5000 bike frame with a workstand clamp applied to the top tube.
So building a cylinder out of that and subjecting it to the sort of uneven loads and directional tensions involved in the deep sea is fucking idiotic.
*Referred to in the trade as "Black Metal", as the layup has to be overlapped in different directions so much in these areas that it confers no weight or strength advantage over just using aluminum or steel. Carbon handlebar stems are the classic example, there's no sensible reason to ever even try to make a component that will see forces in almost all directions and must have a minimum of four clamping points out of carbon, but people love their bling.
So building a cylinder out of that and subjecting it to the sort of uneven loads and directional tensions involved in the deep sea is fucking idiotic.
*Referred to in the trade as "Black Metal", as the layup has to be overlapped in different directions so much in these areas that it confers no weight or strength advantage over just using aluminum or steel. Carbon handlebar stems are the classic example, there's no sensible reason to ever even try to make a component that will see forces in almost all directions and must have a minimum of four clamping points out of carbon, but people love their bling.
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