[Abernathy]

Skelton is taking aim at the wrong target here, surely? I'm as guilty as the next educated middle class person (!) of succumbing to the temptation of regarding people who voted "Leave" as slightly deficient in intelligence quotient, having encountered a few such people, but this really isn't the point. To a considerable extent, this form of "snobbery" has always existed.

Surely the crux of the matter with respect to the EU referendum was that such a complex, multi-faceted, and vitally important decision concerning the country's 40 year relationship with the EU should *never* have been put to a plebiscite in a limited-franchise vote as a binary decision requiring only a simple majority ?

Before the likes of Farage began to stir up his immigrant-centred hatred, most people were only dimly aware of the existence of the EU, and even fewer fully understood it, or its impact on their day-to-day lives, blissfully getting on with stuff with nary a thought to Europe (I include myself in that number).

This is undoubtedly still the case, but now, we have a whole nest of problems, difficulties, and hardships created solely by Brexit that just never existed before.

[Youngian]

I'm as guilty as the next educated middle class person (!) of succumbing to the temptation of regarding people who voted "Leave" as slightly deficient in intelligence quotient, having encountered a few such people, but this really isn't the point. To a considerable extent, this form of "snobbery" has always existed.

Tell a Brexiter what you think of them but pretend you're talking about a Corbyn supporter (not too bright, windbag zealots living in cuckoo land). They nod in agreement.

[kreuzberger]

This is undoubtedly still the case, but now, we have a whole nest of problems, difficulties, and hardships created solely by Brexit that just never existed before.

This, for me, is at the root of this latest deceit. We are not being snobbish, we are airing our own legitimate concerns. "Legitimate" in that we are none too pleased that they have socially, economically, politically , and reputationally destroyed a half-decent country. As legitimate things go, that is pretty high on the list of fucking legitimacies.

Now that Nando's is closing and that the beer supplies are more precarious than at any time since the war, perhaps the penny will finally drop. Recent form, suggests that they will deny these privations too.

[Nigredo]

This, for me, is at the root of this latest deceit. We are not being snobbish, we are airing our own legitimate concerns. "Legitimate" in that we are none too pleased that they have socially, economically, politically , and reputationally destroyed a half-decent country. As legitimate things go, that is pretty high on the list of fucking legitimacies.

Thank you for providing me an excellent retort to the Anarkiddie in my group chat who states he'd gleefully vote for Leave in a second referendum to stick it to Tarquin in Cambridgeshire looking down at all the thick racists in Sunderland for threatening to ruin the exchange rate for his ski holiday.

[Boiler]

"My 'legitimate concern' trumps your 'legitimate concern'. "

[kreuzberger]

"My 'legitimate concern' trumps your 'legitimate concern'. "

I can articulate my concerns without lying or, if they do, heaven forfend, actually stray into the broad vicinity of the truth, racism.

Even over the last 24 hours, we have witnessed published job vacancies figures standing at 950,000 while the usual suspects air more or their legitimate concerns about a handful of potential Afghan refugees swamping the labour market.

[RedSparrows]

This is undoubtedly still the case, but now, we have a whole nest of problems, difficulties, and hardships created solely by Brexit that just never existed before.

This, for me, is at the root of this latest deceit. We are not being snobbish, we are airing our own legitimate concerns. "Legitimate" in that we are none too pleased that they have socially, economically, politically , and reputationally destroyed a half-decent country. As legitimate things go, that is pretty high on the list of fucking legitimacies.

Now that Nando's is closing and that the beer supplies are more precarious than at any time since the war, perhaps the penny will finally drop. Recent form, suggests that they will deny these privations too.

Word.

The story is only ever 'booo snobby elites'. Never 'ah, this democratic moment was handled really badly, and we shouldn't coddle ignorance'.

[Boiler]

"My 'legitimate concern' trumps your 'legitimate concern'. "

I can articulate my concerns without lying or, if they do, heaven forfend, actually stray into the broad vicinity of the truth, racism.

Even over the last 24 hours, we have witnessed published job vacancies figures standing at 950,000 while the usual suspects air more or their legitimate concerns about a handful of potential Afghan refugees swamping the labour market.

Between eight and thirty per parliamentary constituency, depending on the maths. I understand a council in Newark has already welcomed its first Afghan family from this emergency.

Many of those jobs are in entertainment and hospitality, I understand - jobs one never sees the English rushing to fill. But there are those who would rather they remained vacant rather than a forrin fill them...

[kreuzberger]

... But there are those who would rather they remained vacant rather than a forrin fill them...

See Grant Shapps, Michael Green, Sebastian Fox and others regarding hauliers.

[Boiler]

One person whom I'd happily divide into thirds...

[Nigredo]

[kreuzberger]

The thought that that racist old bastard has ever seen the inside of a library? That's for the birds.

[Bones McCoy]

The thought that that racist old bastard has ever seen the inside of a library? That's for the birds.

It's a smutty book shop, but he calls it the library.

[Andy McDandy]

Believe me, you get them. They come in for the papers, to use the free PCs, and to complain about everyone else in there. Occasionally they moan about us not having Littlejohn's Britain as book of the week, or us putting up an LGBTQ+ or Black History display.

[davidjay]

Believe me, you get them. They come in for the papers, to use the free PCs, and to complain about everyone else in there. Occasionally they moan about us not having Littlejohn's Britain as book of the week, or us putting up an LGBTQ+ or Black History display.

Do they ask when White History Month is?

[Andy McDandy]

Forgive me if you've heard this one before, but it's a good'un.

Picture the scene, Gloucester Library, 2007. We've put together a display for prominent and upcoming LGBTQ+ writers - Jeanette Winterson, Jake Arnott, Sarah Walters, you know the drill. As I put the finishing touches to it (it was called "Loud and Proud"), up comes a standard Gammon.

"'Ere, mate" he says, "What's all this then? Where's all the books for the rest of us?"

"What do you mean?" I ask.

"The books for us! You know, normal people!"

Wordlessly, I just gesture to all the bookshelves lining the room.

Anyway, a few days later (it was at this time of year), we decided to have a little fun. We'd had up a display of "New Year, New You" books, which were in fairness mostly aimed at women. Wellness, Mind/Body/Spirit, exercise, diets and so on. So we put up a display called "Just for Men" (privately called "100% Straight!", or "Not Gay, Just Curious" by staff). MMA, car manuals, good beer guides, the collected works of Littlejohn and Clarkson and so on.

As for BHM, oh yes. Every. Single. Year.

[Nigredo]

My dad's favourite gripe used to be "How come there's no society for white lawyers eh? Eh?!"

[Bones McCoy]

My dad's favourite gripe used to be "How come there's no society for white lawyers eh? Eh?!"

Or indeed white coppers.

[Bones McCoy]

My dad's favourite gripe used to be "How come there's no society for white lawyers eh? Eh?!"

Tell him the white lawyers society is called the House of Lords.

[Andy McDandy]

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