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Oboogie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:06 pm Did Trump know who Corbyn was?

Trump probably doesn’t even really know who Johnson was.

Cracked, which I regularly read, and is an American site, sums them up as That hairy oaf who you inexplicably made PM, and That woman who was PM for a bit then got outlasted by a lettuce.

The media is really unfair on Jez with guilt by association.



Most of us had seen the result coming a mile off. I'd have gone to a party with Grayson Perry and Rosamund Pike if I'd been invited rather than sat around with a bunch of people surprised that Labour hadn't won Nuneaton.

Anyway, take that Baddiel.

The day after I went to a gig, I’m now sorry I didn’t join in some collective mourning for the great one who demonstrated that for Some reason a self described good campaigner couldn’t run a decent campaign.

It must be one depressive spiral for this lot, a Labour member like myself who wants to see Labour in power are cautiously optimistic 3 years on.

This lot who have created some devil out a centre left leader in Starmer, every day must be a gut punch, I’d seek some mental health support if I was them, some of its not normal.

Can’t even think of a problem with Johnson attending the birthday bash. And I wish ill on him at every possible opportunity.

Any famous names who had the foresight to be too cool for skool and turn down party invites from the KGB officer’s playboy son?

I gather Jez has been in the media exhibiting his foreign affairs expertise again. Now it’s clear he won’t be standing, I wonder if we’ll see more of this. The upside of that would be he would be less likely to hold his seat.

Has he definitely said he won't be standing again?

I meant for standing for Labour.

I reckon he’ll stand as an independent.

Yes. He's been doing a lot of stuff in his comfort zone.

And a woeful Tweet on Holocaust Memorial Day...

I caught a bit of an interview he did with Ben Kentish on LBC the other night. Corbyn was doing his customary "poor me" act and yet again attempting to downplay the extent of the anti-semitism problem in the party that the EHRC reported - which of course was the reason he lost the whip in the first place. An obvious breach of Healy's first law of holes.

He's never getting the whip restored, even if he fully recants now. Get ready for Corbyn's independent candidacy - and instant expulsion from Labour.

Indeed - the rules are firm on that. Stand (or campaign) against the party and you're out for at least five years.

Jez’s interview with the News Agents is his entire time in office in microcosm. Prickly, arrogant and tetchy when asked anything that challenges his finely crafted image, still apologetic for Putin (albeit now with some token resistance, but clearly what matters most to him is Ukraine folding), and everything that happened in terms of antisemitism is either an unfortunate thing he didn’t notice, a coincidence, or something blown up out of all proportion.

An utterly awful performance with one of the least hostile, most open set of journalists out there.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:48 pm Indeed - the rules are firm on that. Stand (or campaign) against the party and you're out for at least five years.

Should get rid of a few momentum types

Yes - those with TUSC or SWP pasts, or those who have been 'disloyal'...

Trouble is that the checking is in the hands of the chair of the local party, and if they are also of a dubious past the checking may be somewhat fudged. Which is how our last candidate got chosen despite Facebook and other posts condemning Starmer for being a traitor, red Tory etc.

Crab cakes wrote:still apologetic for Putin (albeit now with some token resistance, but clearly what matters most to him is Ukraine folding)

I can't help wondering if Zelenskyy's Jewish heritage has anything to do with this?

I suspect it’s more simple than that - the US are supporting Ukraine, therefore they must be the bad guys. The fact Zelenskyy is of Jewish heritage is yet another inconvenience that he’ll have absolutely no awareness of.

I must say I'm with David Baddiel on this, that his 'devotion' to the cause of Palestine and his anti-Israeli stance essentially blinded him to anti-semitism, rather than being an active anti-semite.

Not much better, really, though but.

He is quite impressively stupid.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:01 pm I must say I'm with David Baddiel on this, that his 'devotion' to the cause of Palestine and his anti-Israeli stance essentially blinded him to anti-semitism, rather than being an active anti-semite.

Not much better, really, though but.

He is quite impressively stupid.

That's my take. As has been said on here before, he can't ever meet an underdog without being unconditionally on their side, which means mixing with some very nasty people. I may be wrong but I don't think he's bad, just incredibly naive.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:24 pm I don't think he's bad, just incredibly stupid.

FTFY

The mural sums it up. Immediately jumping on the bandwagon of “the little guy vs the man”, without even taking the 10 seconds it would have needed to spot the racist tropes in the image. And if he didn’t even look at the image, then decades as a politician has taught him precisely nothing.