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Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:02 pm
by kreuzberger
Bones McCoy wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:38 am More party stuff on the news this morning.

Civil servant is investigating any possible ethics breach.
If found it will be referred, for judgement, to the Prime Minister.

What a pathetic system.
A nation that once led the world in science and engineering is now best known for loopholes.
I hate to be pedantic, but that nation of which you speak was Scotland.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:40 pm
by Nigredo

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:41 pm
by RedSparrows
Uh, what?

'Stalinist', they scream the next time someone wearing a non-blue rosette suggests adding 1p to a tax rate.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:34 pm
by Youngian
Tom Hunt’s dad Bill is a senior Tory councillor in Cambs and has a reputation as an ignorant, rude cocksucker. His son doesn’t even possess his level of finesse. The 2019 new Tory in-take must be worst collection of dregs that’s ever entered the Commons.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:57 pm
by davidjay
Read on - he's actually preserving the jury system. He's one of the good guys.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:58 am
by Bones McCoy
You can't take the bullingdon out of the trapped adolescent.

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Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:01 pm
by mattomac
They are misjudging this as badly as Patterson situation.

One day it will dawn on them that Johnson cares about his longevity and nothing else.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:29 pm
by Andy McDandy
I suspect that's why they are hanging on for dear life.

They're all inextricably tied to the smirking Toby jug. They're nothing without him. Not one of them has anything to offer, no vision, no idea of what Conservatism could be without him. And they need him to sell it. Even with all this going on, there's still just about enough people who still buy his act to hold onto power. Everyone else is either superficially nice but cellophane (Truss, Sunak), a vicious idiot (Patel, Raab), or on the back benches, an out and out nutter (Swayne, Baker, Francois, Leigh, oh my God the list goes on), or an identikit Tory Boy (Big Dinners Rowland Browning cosplayer, Dehenna Mitford-Davidson, Percy Weasley from Stoke, Ipswich lynch mob kid, oh FFS this list also just goes on and on).

Who's left? Gove. And that needs an ultra-safe seat because anywhere else he'd crash and burn.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:51 pm
by mattomac
Andy McDandy wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:29 pm I suspect that's why they are hanging on for dear life.

They're all inextricably tied to the smirking Toby jug. They're nothing without him. Not one of them has anything to offer, no vision, no idea of what Conservatism could be without him. And they need him to sell it. Even with all this going on, there's still just about enough people who still buy his act to hold onto power. Everyone else is either superficially nice but cellophane (Truss, Sunak), a vicious idiot (Patel, Raab), or on the back benches, an out and out nutter (Swayne, Baker, Francois, Leigh, oh my God the list goes on), or an identikit Tory Boy (Big Dinners Rowland Browning cosplayer, Dehenna Mitford-Davidson, Percy Weasley from Stoke, Ipswich lynch mob kid, oh FFS this list also just goes on and on).

Who's left? Gove. And that needs an ultra-safe seat because anywhere else he'd crash and burn.
Hunt…

It feels a bit like I bet on May to win the leadership as it felt obvious he was the only one.

Considering he is as bad as the others doesn’t mean a lot

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:06 pm
by Nigredo
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... is-johnson

I believe there was inklings of this under Cameron and May that was more an insidious favouritism, it's now becoming explicit that Tories will punish opponents of their ideology.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:19 pm
by Youngian
Another cunning fight back unwinds and the ACME anvil lands on Johnson’s head. Even with a government machine behind them, Johnson’s Brexit gang can’t hide their stupidity.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:31 pm
by Bones McCoy
I'm sure funtime Boris would never plan attacks on people who upset him.


On the blackmail for constituency resources, I assumed this was all "just business".
Think how many times funding to opposition regions has been pulled while resources in the leafy blue shires have rarely had to go begging.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:22 am
by davidjay
Bones McCoy wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:31 pm I'm sure funtime Boris would never plan attacks on people who upset him.


I'm sure the mere suggestion would have him open-mouthed, like a fish. A goldfish, for example, or possibly a guppy.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:10 am
by Watchman
I’m guessing that at the next round of election canvassing, the line will be “I was only following orders”

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:50 am
by Andy McDandy
Canvassing? Oh my sweet summer child...

Considering that in 2015, in my mum's solidly Tory ward (flip seat though), the only thing we saw of the Tory candidate was an activist running up her driveway, shoving a leaflet through the door, and scarpering when I went to open it.

There were also reports of Tory canvassers in 2017/19 being told to avoid homes with visible bookshelves, as they were likely not favourably responsive to them.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:04 am
by Nigredo
Watchman wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:10 am I’m guessing that at the next round of election canvassing, the line will be “I was only following orders”
Or on the pork haystack's case, "I was only following hors d'oeuvres".

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:06 pm
by Nigredo

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:17 pm
by Bones McCoy
Oblomov wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:06 pm
It's been going on for ages: At least since Thatcher - I cant remember before Thatcher.

More recent evidence is the league table of "levelling up" constituencies.
Plenty of well off areas in poor regions feature.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:30 am
by mattomac
“Levelling up” was a sham and lie it would be fitting if it’s what finishes the sad sack of cum off.

Saying it and delivering it are two different things, Johnson was never going to do so.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:18 pm
by Tubby Isaacs