[Andy McDandy]

Far as I recall, the only European leaders to have tried this in recent decades were Hitler and Ceaucescu.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Keith Joseph thought too many poor people were having thick kids and threatening "our human stock".

[The Weeping Angel]

Keith Joseph thought too many poor people were having thick kids and threatening "our human stock".

Sandbrook talks about him a fair bit in one of his books.

[davidjay]

They seem to be taking it in turns - Lowe comes out with a string of bigotry, then the MP for JFK, then 30p Lee, then Tice, then the other one, and back again.

[Bones McCoy]

Former Reform UK Wales leader charged with bribery

The former leader of Reform UK in Wales, Nathan Gill, is due to appear in court on Monday on charges of bribery.

It follows an investigation led by detectives from the counter-terrorism command at Metropolitan Police.

He was an MEP for almost six years and briefly represented north Wales in the Welsh Parliament.

The police force said Mr Gill was charged with eight counts of bribery and one count of conspiracy to commit bribery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3ywlwlqzzo


I'm sure it'll all turn out to be a misunderstanding.

[Youngian]

After two days of considered soul searching, Reform conclude that Zelensky isn't a dictator. We like to think about things instead of knee jeek gobbing off on social media, 30p Lee unconvincingly explains.

[Yug]

To be clear


Rather than going straight to social media we sat on our hands and did absolutely nothing until it became clear which way the wind is blowing. Had public opinion been against Zelenskyy we would now be calling him a dictator - just like our god and hero Mr
Best President Ever Trump

[mattomac]

I think it would take them about 3 days to think about that to be fair.

Like it’s very easy to come to the conclusion that a man who is leading a country that was invaded by a hostile regime and has credibly led that country since the start of that wouldn’t be a dictator.

Like that takes about 30 seconds to conclude and to double check just in case we make an error in writing it.

And some people think they should be near government. Like you call Starmer glacial but this kind of decision making is slower than news in the 10th century.

[Killer Whale]

The former leader of Reform UK in Wales, Nathan Gill, is facing bribery charges after an investigation by the counter-terrorism command of the Metropolitan Police.

Mr Gill represented Wales in the European Parliament from 2014 until 2020, initially as a UKIP MEP and later as an Independent..

A statement issued by the Metropolitan Police said: “A man has been charged with a number of bribery offences following an investigation by Counter Terrorism Policing.

“Nathan Gill, 51 (date of birth July 6 1973) of North Wales, was charged via postal requisition with one count of conspiracy to commit bribery, under the Criminal Law Act 1977, and with eight counts of bribery, under the Bribery Act, 2010.

“He is due to appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Monday, 24 February.

“The investigation has been led by detectives from the Met’s Counter Terrorism Command and a man was previously interviewed under caution on March 3 2022 in connection with bribery allegations.

“Further enquiries were carried out by officers and after authorisation by the Crown Prosecution Service Counter Terrorism Division, the man was subsequently charged as above.”

https://nation.cymru/news/ex-reform-uk- ... h-bribery/

[davidjay]

How the hell do you get from terrorism to bribery?

[Youngian]

Opponents need to take a long hard look why some voters believe Farage is a champion of workers' rights. 'There's a lot stupid bastards out there' isn’t quite good enough.

[Andy McDandy]

How the hell do you get from terrorism to bribery?

Practice!

[Killer Whale]

How the hell do you get from terrorism to bribery?

The former leader of Reform UK in Wales has appeared in court accused of accepting bribes in exchange for making favourable statements about Russia in the European Parliament.

Nathan Gill is charged with eight counts of bribery and one count of conspiracy to commit bribery.

Westminster Magistrates’ Court heard Gill allegedly made statements in the European Parliament and in opinion pieces to news outlets, such as 112 Ukraine, which were “supportive of a particular narrative” which would “benefit Russia regarding events in Ukraine”.

https://nation.cymru/news/ex-reform-uk- ... tatements/

Reform gets away with fuck all scrutiny, so they'll just disown him and that will be that.

[Youngian]

I assumed Reform made pro Russian statements for free.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I've always assumed that. I've never really followed Carol Cadwalladr sort of stuff because I didn't think it needed to be true to explain Reform.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Reform gets away with fuck all scrutiny, so they'll just disown him and that will be that.

Yep. They had some wrong ins in the European Parliament, I think. That almost seems to help them. They're all the same, might as well vote Reform.

[Youngian]

The country turning against Trump and the AfD failing to breakthrough are a blow for Reform. So what next might happen to infuriate Farage and his Brexit Tory allies?

New data from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute finds former Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney surging as the hypothetical leader of the Liberals. With Carney at the head of the party, vote intention has tightened to a three-point gap between the Liberals and Conservatives, with 40 per cent supporting the latter and 37 per cent the former. https://angusreid.org/liberal-leadershi ... and-trump/

[Tubby Isaacs]

Is tactical voting likely to be a thing in the election? That doesn't look particularly good for the Canadian Tories if it is.

They'll probably fuck it up. There'll be some Canadian equivalent of "never forgiven Tony Crossland for getting rid of the grammar schools".

[Youngian]

Carney, like Starmer, is the serious candidate for serious times and is unlikely to scare off conservatives with woke ways or socialist planning.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Seems like the Reform straight talkers disappeared for the Ukraine statement today.

Cowards. Labour (and the Tories, who to be fair to them, put their big boy trousers on) need to hammer Farage for this.