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Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:27 pm
by Youngian
Popular Liz is handed the Brexshit sandwich. A perfect opportunity for the wider public to see how crap she is.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:27 pm
by Abernathy
David Frost’s attitude to negotiations with the EU to try to make some sort of sense out of the pig’s ear of an agreement that Johnson signed up to without even reading it was, from the beginning, belligerent, antagonistic, pig-headed, crass, and prize-winningly stupid.

As has already been observed, Frost would not be resigning his post if he were anywhere near concluding a satisfactory agreement. The astonishingly strong suspicion is that he has thrown in the towel because he has had a Damascene revelation that he cannot possibly succeed in his appointed role, and has seen which way the wind is blowing. Principled objection to restrictive “Plan B” Covid-19 restrictions, my arse.

There’s also a strong whiff of Frost’s relationship with Johnson, such as it is, having broken down. The “rat leaving a sinking ship” metaphor is distinctly apposite here.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:32 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:27 pm Popular Liz is handed the Brexshit sandwich. A perfect opportunity for the wider public to see how crap she is.
Ha ha ha .

She couldn't refuse. Johnson abolished the brief and put it in her job.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:34 pm
by Boiler
Youngian wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:27 pm Popular Liz is handed the Brexshit sandwich. A perfect opportunity for the wider public to see how crap she is.
I think your post is missing the words "full" and "of".

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Quite funny that Frost (who can't rum for PM) has used up the "resigning over everything the base don't like" card. Hard for somebody else to do it now who could be PM.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:41 pm
by Cyclist
Is Truss one of those thinking of taking part in a leadership challenge? Is this Johnson's way of 'killing off' the opposition before they can topple him?

It's a poisoned chalice, and he must know she's going to fail. Who's next? Gove?

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:48 pm
by Bones McCoy
I am speculating here, but bear with me.

We know that Johnson and his clique don't go in for experts or planning.
Announces a policy, let the plebs in the Civil Service bear the brunt of implementation.
When it inevitably goes tits up, blame civil service factions, while issuing more and more JFDI orders.

This style of management (JFDI = Just Fucking Do It) suits the talent vacuums like Grayling, Hancock and Patel.
The "Hard taskmaster" plays well with the ageing membership who likely fancy themselves as Victorian mill owners, if not Jamaican sugar plantation overseers.

What if ... the JFDI, which was always aimed at Civil servants, is now being applied to ministers whose faces aren't flavour of the week.
You're making us look bad Frost - just fucking sit those DUP community leaders down and show them what's what!!
Does this explain the recent ructions among the minor ministers and some backbenchers?

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:05 pm
by The All New KevS
Truss replacing Frost is like the BBC cancelling Mrs Brown's Boys and replacing it with Mind Your Language.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:37 pm
by Crabcakes
I assume she got the job because there’s practically no one left who is stupid enough to join team Johnson but not so stupid as to already be on another team (E.g. one of the moronic “research groups”)

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 am
by mattomac
Cyclist wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:41 pm Is Truss one of those thinking of taking part in a leadership challenge? Is this Johnson's way of 'killing off' the opposition before they can topple him?

It's a poisoned chalice, and he must know she's going to fail. Who's next? Gove?
Did wonder if that’s why he picked Javid for health.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:11 am
by mattomac
The nutters on the right such as Fraser Nelson and the like seem to be gunning for Sage.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:28 am
by Watchman
Anything now to protect the “meal ticket”

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:29 pm
by mattomac
They’ve really got desperate now, basically it is “report the “news”
“what? the Covid cases? the parties? the corruption?”

No the fact Starmer uses “Just for men”

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Lots at stake here.

If this wave turns out to be betterthan expected, the Spectator tendency think they've won the whole pandemic.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:34 pm
by Boiler
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:58 pm Lots at stake here.

If this wave turns out to be better than expected, the Spectator tendency think they've won the whole pandemic.
Have the twunts at Spiked spoke theyre bRanEs yet?

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:00 pm
by Boiler

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:16 pm
by Bones McCoy
Boiler wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:00 pm Baroness Jones on the case :)

Met refers itself to watchdog over No 10 Christmas party
Plod is taking the piss now.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:18 pm
by Youngian
An opportunity to persecute Johnson by proxy, Santa’s come early for Jenny Jones.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:34 pm
by davidjay
mattomac wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:11 am The nutters on the right such as Fraser Nelson and the like seem to be gunning for Sage.
It's the second front of the culture wars - attack the experts doing the government down as revenge for Brexit.

Re: New Depths Plumbed While You Wait - The Tories Generally

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:27 pm
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:18 pm An opportunity to persecute Johnson by proxy, Santa’s come early for Jenny Jones.
And the invoice it don't quite fit
No payola in his alphabetical file
'Cept for the government, man
And he's just gonna really tell the boss
He's gonna really let him know exactly how he feels
It's pretty bad

He's in love with rock'n'roll, whoa
He's in love with gettin' stoned, whoa
He's in love with Janie Jones, whoa
He don't like his boring job, no, no, no

Let them know, let them know