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Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:15 am
by Andy McDandy
Littlejohn logic was applied to the issue this morning.

Of the people who voted in the 2024 GE, fewer voted Labour than voted to leave in 2016. Therefore it's still BIGGIST VOAT EVAH WILLADAPEEPUL.

I took it further. If we assume that all those people who voted Leave would naturally want to support ReFuck (if only they could, but can't on account of having one of the acceptable Tory MPs representing them, or are dead), and add those SENTEEN POINT FOUR MILLYAN PEEPUL to the combined majorities of the ReFuck Five, that's bigger than any Labour MP's majority, therefore Starmer's government has no mandate and will surely be washed away. Science fact.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:23 am
by Oboogie
Of course they didn't count for shit because, as I said, the government had a mandate. Parliamentary e-petitions were the idea of the Brown government but never implemented. They were first implemented by Cameron in 2014.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:24 pm
by Abernathy
Apparently, Musk had a hand in propagating this laughable petition via "X".

Cunt's getting everywhere now he's decided to be political.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:46 pm
by Youngian
Any other president would clip a member of his government's wings for interfering in a friendly foreign power's government. Pity the UK has no leverage over the US to have word with Musk.
If I was Starmer I'd raise the idea to EU and CPTPP leaders of having a conference to discuss forming a joint customs union and hold it in Mexico City or Ottawa. Trump won't respond to threats or respect arse licking but being ignored is another matter.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:02 pm
by davidjay
I think Hillsborough was first debated after a petition.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:49 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Victoria here thinks that stopping employers from firing and rehiring for example is going to stop incentivising businesses from taking people on.



Christ I've ended up following oddballs. Just in case people can't see what she wrote
Given Labour’s big changes to NICs & employment rights make employers taking a chance on someone with no experience, significant gaps in their CV or who has been long term sick less likely I can’t see how opportunity is being boosted for those most in need

If you wanted to created many more entry level, flexible or part time jobs for people with employment challenges you absolutely would not have introduced the raft of changes Labour have. Employers needed to be incentivised & they have been disincentivised on multiple fronts.

You have a serious problem with people being long term sick & you just made it possible to claim sick leave from day 1. How have you helped someone who genuinely wants to get back to work? Where is the incentive to take them on?

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:07 am
by davidjay
They wouldn't be happy unless the government brought back workhouses and kids up chimneys.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:08 am
by Tubby Isaacs
And yet the OBR foresee very large employment growth. The budget can’t be that bad, even if there may be a negative effect.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:53 pm
by davidjay
It doesn't matter what really happens - the idea has been planted that this government's useless. And we know who to blame for that.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:43 pm
by NevTheSweeper
Net migration figures to the UK reach 906k in 2023. Apologies if this story has been posted elsewhere.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3degx4029ko
The figures themselves date back to the period BEFORE the recent general election. Why is legal immigration such a problem for our policymakers? Both the Conservatives and Labour parties have long been involved in this arms race over who can be cruel on the vulnerable. The UK has staffing shortages in almost every sector of our economy, and yet we continually refuse to utillize what skills they have.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:01 pm
by Bones McCoy
Abernathy wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:24 pm Apparently, Musk had a hand in propagating this laughable petition via "X".

Cunt's getting everywhere now he's decided to be political.
If only he got his hands on Matthew Perry's Ketamine stash.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Council funding to be redirected from England’s rich areas to most deprived

Ministers will also consider local authority requests to raise council tax above threshold on case-by-case basis
Sounds sensible. £600m is being reallocated, not all that much, but we are where we are.

I'd abolish the council tax cap completely, but appreciate the government is then on the hook for everything in the whole country. At least this way it'll only be on the hook for places where it allows the cap to rise, and it's better that it can do that in places before they actually go bankrupt.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Louise Haigh has conviction for fraud by misrepresentation relating to a mobile
Transport secretary was mugged in 2013 and incorrectly included work phone on list given to police of stolen items
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... o-a-mobile

Might be worth watching this story. I'm not particularly convinced by the explanation. It's easy enough to understand how she might have thought the phone was in the bag when it wasn't. And if it later turned up, I too would have thought "oh fuck", but would have probably used it.

But plead guilty to fraud like this?

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:43 pm
by Philip Marlow
I saw a thing on ye socials in response to this, the gist being that whenever the poster in question sees a story like this their immediate reaction, nowadays, is “Who has this person pissed off and which friendly journalist has been handed the titbit for deployment.”

Worth watching indeed.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:45 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The way Sky News is going I wouldn't be surprised if money is being offered for 'suitable' stories.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:46 pm
by Crabcakes
I dunno. A young person getting shit advice from a solicitor sounds entirely plausible.

Also, as has been noted, there is some serious muck-raking going on at the moment in an attempt to discredit Labour MPs - and specifically female ones - in any way possible. Usually after they’ve just done a good job at something as well.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:04 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Oh shit she'll probably be forced out for this.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:59 pm
by mattomac
Starmer knew.

Young woman got mugged…

Oh look she tried to get a new work phone….

Society is fucked.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:18 am
by Abernathy
Yes, this is fuck all. Who’s going to get her “forced out”?

Right wing tabloids will do their best to paint this as the crime of the century, but it really is sweet fuck all.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 12:28 am
by The Weeping Angel
It will be bought up time and again at PMQs and by Tory MPs and in the media, all the public will hear is fraud and she's gone, if she's not gone within a week I'll be very surprised.