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Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:31 am
by Youngian
If Le Pen loses its likely to be on a higher proportion of the popular vote that propelled Trump to victory. One theory I read for the high younger vote is that a whole generation don’t know full flavoured fascist Le Pen of old. Sounds implausible but plenty of yoof in this country who believed Jez was an ardent Remainer who won a Nobel prize for bringing about peace in Ireland.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:40 am
by Tubby Isaacs
kreuzberger wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:13 pm
I wish that I hadn't glossed over a reasonably authoritative grab earlier suggesting that Mélonchon's tribe are fairly evenly split between sanity and that fashy lady with the funny beak.

Time is of the petrol, comment on dit.
Some very high Melenchon scores in cities, Ile de France etc. I don't know if that was expected. I'm reasonably hopeful these aren't Le Pen types.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:46 pm
by mattomac
Some of the analysis is pretty poor, seems Macron will poll better this time than last some of the opinion polling is out, seems to have done a bit of Miliband closing the polls in the final week thing when in reality they went in and voted Cameron.

A week or so ago the polls seem pretty accurate though they’ve all underestimated Melchanon and all overestimated Zemmour.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
You'll never guess who's going for the "left wing Le Pen" bollocks.


Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:10 pm
by Nigredo
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61073894

Marine Le Pen opposes sanctions on Russian gas, quelle surprise.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:08 pm
by mattomac
She was coming out with some racism before… leopards don’t change their spots.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:45 pm
by Nigredo
mattomac wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:08 pm She was coming out with some racism before… leopards don’t change their spots.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ussia.html

She dropped another pearl of wisdom today.

Bit of an odd one, seeing someone campaign on what an obvious Kremlin stooge they are.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:59 pm
by Nigredo


I'me somewhat confused by Macron's refusal to state the obvious here, is he trying to portray himself as some great broker of peace?

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:09 pm
by Boiler
Yes.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I fear this is true. Poland was doing well when it went down this road.


Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Not very many Melenchon voters transferring to Le Pen. Were they ever going to do that?


Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Debate is happening now.

Le Pen isn't very bright. She's had a moan about Canada exporting chickens. Like Alan Partridge talking to Peter Baxendale-Thomas.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:50 pm
by Boiler

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:53 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
God, she's shit. Keeps saying "Europe of Nations". Strange obsession with posted workers. Macron points out that it's not unknown for French people to work abroad.

She's now wittering on about being a champion of Africa.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:55 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Macron points out that Le Pen's attitude to North Africans wearing headscarves might not go down that well in the actual North Africa.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:57 pm
by kreuzberger
I am doing my best, here.

Leipzig vs Union in one window. Citeh against Brighton in another. Le Pen trying to be dismissive but clearly struggling to keep up in yet another. I've had to mute the Spotifies.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Le Pen now talking about pensions. Nobody to work past 62. That's a rather expensive commitment.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Macron making a mess of his response, or maybe that's just the translator.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Le Pen's now talking about reducing taxes. Paid for by "economic patriotism". Doubtless this pays for the earlier pensions too.

Re: Maintenant en France

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Le Pen hilariously says that Covid didn't spread through small businesses.