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Re: The King
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:00 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Now you're overthinking it.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:29 am
by Andy McDandy
Protestantism was about reforming the church and reevaluating man's relationship with God. Anglicanism is Catholicism with the serial numbers filed off, invented so a guy could dump his wife without much hassle.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:46 am
by Youngian
Henry VIII’s Protestants successors were serious about their religion rather than just a power play with the Vatican.
The subject came up in a thread by George Galloway on Charles’s oath to maintain Protestant ascendancy. An insult to Catholics in Britain and a dangerous constitutional protocol, George argued. One poster told him to calm down, the New Model Army would be after Charles’s Anglican head for displaying blasphemous Papist flummery before getting around to arresting Galloway in the confession box.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:44 am
by Bones McCoy
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:29 am
Protestantism was about reforming the church and reevaluating man's relationship with God. Anglicanism is Catholicism with the serial numbers filed off, invented so a guy could dump his wife without much hassle.
To be fair to the Episcopalians, they've spread a bit since them.
One end overlaps Catholicism and apes its dress ceremony and splendour.
Hence the ease of Anne Widdecombe and others swapping denominations.
At the other there's a fairly stripped down tendency with beards and guitars replacing the cassocks and choirboys.
I suspect this has always been there, since the church has had several breakaways like the Wesleyans since the reformation.
Most of the big protestant groups in England and Wales are Anabaptists or Arminists, not Lutherans or Calvinists.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:29 am
by Watchman
The Catholic Church is probably the most right wing of the Christian churches in England
Re: The King
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:36 pm
by AOB
Cunts aren't even giving the plebs an extra bank holiday for the coronation. Looks like they are shifting the May one back a week. Starmer has even joined No 10 in that call. Then again he doesn't like people going on strike so I don't know why I expected different.
Re: The King
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:55 pm
by Abernathy
Nobody likes people going on strike. Not even the people going on strike. Why single out Keir Starmer ?
Re: The King
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:04 pm
by AOB
He should be calling for the people paying for it to get an extra day off. I would expect nothing less from No 10 to oppose an extra day, I don't want the Labour leader nodding along. I should've worded the previous better- he didn't like MPs joining strikers on picket lines. I could understand neutrality on his part, "join one if you want" but not speaking against them for doing so.
Re: The King
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:26 pm
by Abernathy
It is a bit odd that we got an extra bank holiday for Brenda’s obsequies, but nowt for Chazza’s crowning jamboree.
Re: The King
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:58 pm
by Oboogie
Abernathy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:26 pm
It is a bit odd that we got an extra bank holiday for Brenda’s obsequies, but nowt for Chazza’s crowning jamboree.
Not odd at all, the Tories liked Brenda and hate Brian.
Re: The King
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 am
by Andy McDandy
Also remember that their fiscal prudence goes out of the window in certain situations.
Royalty
War
Recreating Hogwarts (see JRM insisting on every MP getting bound copies of Hansard, despite the thing being available online; or his sister during her spell as an MEP moaning about having a tablet)
Transferring public funds into private hands
Re: The King
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:02 pm
by Oboogie
I do wish Charles would stop throwing out these challenges to my republicanism.
"King Charles greets Liz Truss with: ‘Back again? Dear, oh dear’ "
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... y-audience
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:39 am
by Youngian
A lavish Ruritanian coronation as the country is in meltdown should restore republican faith. How this will stop global mockery, I don’t know.
Didn’t initially have the same level of contemptuous loathing for Sunak compared to his three predecessors.That was a temporary blip.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:50 pm
by davidjay
No-one should be surprised. For all his supposed attempts at reform, Brian is as much a bread & circuses man as the next monarch. He is, and I have said this many times, a macro version of the kindly eighteenth century landowner who knew all his tenants' names, gave them a farthing at Christmas and would have them transported to van Diemen's Land for poaching a rabbit. The rich man in his castle...
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:29 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
With an 18th century aristo's weltenschauung.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:01 pm
by Youngian
The. Windsors would accept an ‘all in it together’ cut price coronation if that was the political advice, the Queen did frugal when required (not for real, obviously). Not sure about Charlie’s judgement and No 10 will make the wrong call. Sunak’s so tin eared he jets off to Malibu in a crisis.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:18 pm
by Oboogie
davidjay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:50 pm
No-one should be surprised. For all his supposed attempts at reform, Brian is as much a bread & circuses man as the next monarch. He is, and I have said this many times, a macro version of the kindly eighteenth century landowner who knew all his tenants' names, gave them a farthing at Christmas and would have them transported to van Diemen's Land for poaching a rabbit. The rich man in his castle...
But is it Charles or is it really Sunak who's behind this?
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:47 pm
by Andy McDandy
Liz, I suspect, may well have been frugal in private, but she sure loved the bling when on the job.
I think this is partly the palace, partly the PM. Britain means royalty and heritage and pomp and ceremony; and anyone disagreeing - whether an out and out republican or just calling for restraint - can be painted as doing the country down, unpatriotic, probably a lefty remainer who reads books and that.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:44 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Bill Cash and his mates.
Re: The King
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:48 pm
by davidjay
I can see the Royal Family becoming our electoral equivalent of Christianity in America. You're never going to get elected without wholeheartedly defending it.