Mailwatch(ed) Forum

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:29 am

kettle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:52 am

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:26 am
Corbyn is a an anti-Semite, the evidence is irrefutable, there is also evidence that he is a racist and misogynist.
If Malcolm had said something racist, you'd be able to quote it - but you can't.

This is all nonsense though isn't it. There is no irrefutable evidence of being an antisemite.

Malcolm said that corbyn will fuck anything with a pulse, suggesting sexual promiscuity with low standards. The only example of him fucking around I'm aware of (and the only one he could link to, with a link to the Sun no less - just brilliant by the way) was him having sex with Dianne Abbott.

It wouldn't surprise me to see that this forum has a blind spot for racism. I recall one forum member referring to "nigga" music and that was just glossed over entirely...

Once you've finished "doing a Dom" perhaps you'd like to flounce off to a different forum and conduct your tropping there.

And give me the £50 you owe me first.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:15 am I think I'm missing something here. How is pointing out that Jeremy Corbyn has had sex with a lady racist?

it's a crticism of Diane Abbott and if you criticize Diane Abbott in any way then you're a racist.

kettle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:52 am

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:26 am Corbyn is a an anti-Semite, the evidence is irrefutable,

This is all nonsense though isn't it. There is no irrefutable evidence of being an antisemite.

"These are all the reasons Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic, despite his claims to contrary"
https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/artic ... 5BAN8sznTY

The "no warnings, you're supposed to be a grown-up" policy is, I can confirm, still very much in place.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:47 pm The "no warnings, you're supposed to be a grown-up" policy is, I can confirm, still very much in place.

You mean Kettle’s been potted?

I don't want to have a go at anyone but can we please move this to the Labour Party sub forum?

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:59 pm I don't want to have a go at anyone but can we please move this to the Labour Party sub forum?

Good point well made.

kettle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:52 am This is all nonsense though isn't it. There is no irrefutable evidence of being an antisemite.

Malcolm said that corbyn will fuck anything with a pulse, suggesting sexual promiscuity with low standards. The only example of him fucking around I'm aware of (and the only one he could link to, with a link to the Sun no less - just brilliant by the way) was him having sex with Dianne Abbott.

It wouldn't surprise me to see that this forum has a blind spot for racism. I recall one forum member referring to "nigga" music and that was just glossed over entirely...

I know he's been binned off again already, but there is something quite notable here:

On the one hand, a single incidence of poor choice of language from a person, with no history of abuse and no abusive intent in the context: definitely racist and evidence of the entire forum being racist (or at least turning a blind eye to racism).

On the other, a man with a decades-long list of documented incidents of turning a blind eye, letting people off with repeat warnings, 'accidental' endorsement of racist tropes, a complete ignorance of a wide range of people's troubling past actions and writings, repeated incidences of saying something and 'not realising how it could be taken', and putting labour party funds into exonerating himself and his chums and - at a GE - pouring resources into an unwinnable (for Labour) seat just to make sure a female Jewish MP didn't win it either when she had a good chance of doing so: definitely not racist and no evidence of anything whatsoever.

And on a personal note, taking something said about a thrice-married man's fairly well known liking for "the ladies" and *immediately* assuming it's referring to a black woman who he was once in a relationship with: definitely shows someone else is racist, yet is no reflection on the person who seemingly knows very little about their hero and thus put 2 and 2 together and came up with Diane Abbott?

Hmmmmm.

Is it just me or is there considerable overlap between Johnson and Corbyn?

Both, it seems, will lend their support or apparent approval to anyone, which has seen them appear to endorse rather unpleasant people. Wanting to apear as a friend to all on their "side", not realising that on said side, there are groups that are diametrically opposed to each other, and "on the one hand..." doesn't really work. Both love a good photo op, but it seems to be more about being seen to be doing something than actually doing something.

I think on Mailwatch 1.0 someone made the point that Corbyn was also a populist, just not a very popular one...

It's a good thing Wino has once again been binned because he'd be all over this.

Isn't that the sort of approval rating Corbyn was getting?

Do people want a Labour Boris? May as well give the job to Derek Hatton. Gift of the gab, shameless liar, bent as a nine bob note and flaunts it.

Apparently people want Burnham.

Burnham's not an MP, so they might as well have included Shergar.

I wonder what Starmer's figures would have been if Burnham had been left off the list?

It would be easy to argue - as I’m sure the Corbyn fans are - that this is a direct comparison so Starmer should go. But the vaccine bounce is real (and utterly undeserved), the Tory vs Labour ratings meaningless because the Tory leader gets + points for being as vast a cunt as possible while the Labour leader gets - points for being too socialist, not socialist enough or too middle ground, and we’re in a bizarre limbo period where the worst of Brexit is yet to come.

I have some disappointments with Starmer myself, but I also think he is a victim of circumstances entirely beyond his control.

it doesn't matter who the Labour leader is - Johnson can do no wrong so therefore anyone would be unpopular, with the Hidden Tory caveat that it's really the leader they don't like rather than admitting they love the populist xenophobia.

davidjay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:53 am with the Hidden Tory caveat that it's really the leader they don't like rather than admitting they love the populist xenophobia.

They’ll always be excuses for voting Tory. Neil Kinnock was considered a bit of a clown compared to serious Mrs Thatcher so therefore wasn’t fit to vote for.

I caught a piece on BBC News yesterday - a vox pop in Batley. A couple of, I suspect, future Tory voters said that "Conservatives know what the working man wants: Labour tells us what we want."

It was then followed by interviews with Labour supporters.

I feel that the best that can be hoped for is Labour in B&S, but with a significantly reduced majority.

Just look at PMQs today. Alex blusters, gets told to answer the question by the Speaker, says no and you can't make me, fudges, mumbles a bit. Starmer comes back with fact.

Then Wino's mates say "Keith" and "Twenty points ahead" on Twitter and the Tories win more votes.