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Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:33 pm
by Bones McCoy
"Tetchy Ballsack" unmasked after a whole 5 minutes.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:37 pm
by kreuzberger
The hosting/moderation is woeful. The mendacious midget is being given the floor while Starmer is trying to play by the rules and being slapped down when he tries to get a word in edgeways.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:38 pm
by Youngian
Sunak’s not doing himself any favours blathering on.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:43 pm
by Youngian
ECHR ‘Foreign court’ oh do fuck off

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Much appreciate you watching so I don't have to. As an aside, I see Victoria Atkins is still doing a fair bit of the media lifting. This is not a normal campaign.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:55 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:56 pm
by Abernathy
Sunak adopting the Johnson approach - tell lies, and keep on lying.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Sorry for another interruption, but this is worth it, believe you me.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:57 pm
by Youngian
Might check out Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign instead

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This doesn't sound great for Sunak.


Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:03 pm
by kreuzberger
Sunak has bullshat his way to ten o'clock with nary a challenge. Starmer is struggling in the slipstream. He appears to have been blind-sided.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:11 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:12 pm
by Crabcakes
I didn’t watch, but the overwhelming themes on social media were:

Moderating was shit
Sunak was rude and spoke over everyone
He repeated the same thing over and over and had nothing else
The audience openly laughed at him
Starmer scored points on the NHS and seemed statesmanlike

So no slam dunk, but Sunak quite possibly managed to make himself appear even worse.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:13 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:56 pm Sorry for another interruption, but this is worth it, believe you me.

Need a heart of stone etc etc.

Personally, the fewer thinktank alumni near the election the better.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:14 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Yougov "Who performed better?"

Sunak 51%, Starmer 49%

Hmmm.

Even so, won't change the polls.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:14 pm
by Bones McCoy
Sunak not getting a great reception on Twitter.

https://x.com/search?q=%23ITVDebate

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:19 pm
by Crabcakes
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:14 pm Yougov "Who performed better?"

Sunak 51%, Starmer 49%

Hmmm.

Even so, won't change the polls.
This seems wildly at odds with every take I’ve seen. And that includes quite a few people who start their posts “I’m no fan of Starmer, but…”

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:30 pm
by kreuzberger
Etchingham is coming in for a fair deal of flack, but there is no way in which women can be expected to do their job if they are simply being belittled by their interlocutors.

Sunak was unspeakably disrespectful and dismissive.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:33 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Seems to be different from what I'm seeing, too.

Re: General Election 2024

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:35 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Hmm again...