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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:04 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
With Labour scoring 17% as best party on the economy and rally arounf the flag propping up the Government, you'd think this were a good time to get something out there.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:49 pm
by Nigredo
I thought he would have been pawning anything economic off onto Rishi, who can do that "We'd rather not but needs must" spiel for austerity 2.0.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:18 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Rishi put his foot down with the care policy apparently. Wouldn't let Johnson announce it without announcing the tax rises too, so that Johnson owned the tax rises.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:06 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
More populist twattery.
Even leaving aside educational arguments, arts subjects are popular and massively subsidize medicine etc, with costs paid by the students, not the government. I know, let's cut them, make them really shit.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The wait for Survation is over. It's a mug's game to tie in individual polls with events, dear boy. But I quite like the balance of sensibles v the rest. I reckon the sensibles have about 57%,
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:10 am
by Youngian
Who are the 6%? Even better if Johnson lost a point to REFUK as well. For his hand brake turn on supporting the England wokes.
Rise in economic confidence for Labour. Giving Johnson 41% approval because the Tories know how look after your money, is English cap doffing at its most ridiculous.
Johnson / Starmer
Brexit 42% (+4) / 26% (+3)
Covid 33% (-5) / 29% (+6)
Economy 41% (+1) / 26% (+2)
Education 31% / 33%
Environment 28%/ 29%
Law/order 35% / 27%
NHS 31% (-1) / 36% (+3)
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:38 pm
by mattomac
Be mostly Northern Ireland and parties like Plaid.
Also I note the cut in London weighting it’s labelled as part of the levelling up agenda but it’s the levelling down.
When Williamson is done Higher Education like most other things will be a shell of its former self.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:10 am
Who are the 6%? Even better if Johnson lost a point to REFUK as well. For his hand brake turn on supporting the England wokes.
Rise in economic confidence for Labour. Giving Johnson 41% approval because the Tories know how look after your money, is English cap doffing at its most ridiculous.
Johnson / Starmer
Brexit 42% (+4) / 26% (+3)
Covid 33% (-5) / 29% (+6)
Economy 41% (+1) / 26% (+2)
Education 31% / 33%
Environment 28%/ 29%
Law/order 35% / 27%
NHS 31% (-1) / 36% (+3)
Interesting change on the NHS there too. Johnson at one time had a good lead on that- I presume because millions of people were getting vaccinated and came away thinking "NHS can't be bad!" If that fades, it's bad news.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
What do we make of Dawn Butler? I thought it might backfire. She's right, but the problem is that it's not hard for the government to chuck the same back at you, and a chunk of the public will think "They're all the same, at least Bozo isn't pious".
But she may have struck a wider chord than I expected. Doubtless a few people will say the real issue is Kieth for not doing this at PMQs.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pm
by kreuzberger
Been up to my arse in alligators this afternoon and evening but it was great to catch up with the news and see Johnson being skinnered by Dawn Butler.
As entertaining as that might be, this tactic will need to be used very carefully - the odd hit and run raid when it is least expected - or it will go stale very quickly. As Johnson and the oleaginous Linseed Hoyle amply demonstrate, the tories could easily lie about the lying of others and get away with it, Scot free.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:11 am
by Youngian
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:45 am
by Bones McCoy
Some might associate such behaviour with the likes of Stalin.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:47 am
by The All New KevS
It's too late now as they supposed to be all traipsing back after recess, but some enterprising MP asking remotely could have "BORIS JOHNSON IS A LIAR" written on a whiteboard behind them, and if it's pointed out, just say "Oh no! How did that happen? Gosh, those bloomin' kids! Well, I'd better clean that off"
Then through a performance that Norman Wisdom would be proud of, "accidentally" ensure that the camera can see nothing more than what is in the whiteboard as they fail to clean it.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:20 am
by Andy McDandy
"Mr/Madam speaker, given that it would be unparliamentary of me to call him a liar, can you suggest some acceptable euphemisms?"
Probably get a "don't take the piss" reply, but would still end up on the record.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:31 am
by Bones McCoy
The All New KevS wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:47 am
It's too late now as they supposed to be all traipsing back after recess, but some enterprising MP asking remotely could have "BORIS JOHNSON IS A LIAR" written on a whiteboard behind them, and if it's pointed out, just say "Oh no! How did that happen? Gosh, those bloomin' kids! Well, I'd better clean that off"
Then through a performance that Norman Wisdom would be proud of, "accidentally" ensure that the camera can see nothing more than what is in the whiteboard as they fail to clean it.
Ideal opportunity to use those old kiddies blocks with the letters on.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:30 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Last day of Parliament.
Johnson drops the report into Greensill that says it's the fault of Sir Jeremy Heywood. Maybe his ghost was chasing David Cameron around Whitehall, forcing him to punt payday loans.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... y-travesty
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:55 pm
by Andy McDandy
Blame the dead guy.
I really want to enjoy Johnson's fall from grace and inevitable demise. In a ditch, on fire, doused in petrol.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Now then. Though sobering to recall that this poll still had the Tories on 43%.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:13 pm
by Youngian
How can he get more unpopular in Scotland? His approval rating must be over 100 points below Sturgeon now.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:40 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Dawn Butler calling Johnson a liar isn't Watergate despite what some people think.