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The All New KevS wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:18 pm should have said "mandatory masks back"

One of the journalists (BBC or Sky) asked Johnson specifically if mask wearing would be mandatory, all he said was repeat that it would "tightened up" in shops and public transport". No mention of how or by whom. Also no mention of hospitality or any other indoor space.
Also:
No home working
No travel restrictions
No vaccine passports
So no action has in fact been announced so far but Sajid is going to announce something "in a day or two".

Just got this from the Prefet in La Manche:

The areas concerned by the obligation to wear a mask are as follows:

• markets whatever their nature, flea markets, open-air or covered sales;
  
  in public gatherings, whatever their cultural, sporting or festive nature;
  
  near train stations, stations or bus stops, within a radius of 50 meters;
  
  on the outskirts of shopping centers, during periods of high footfall and crowding
  
  
  around educational establishments within a perimeter of 50 meters;
  
  near buildings and places of worship within a perimeter of 50 meters
  
  in the queues outside.
  
  At Mont-Saint-Michel intramural from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m.

The obligation to wear a mask does not apply to:
• people with disabilities who have a medical certificate justifying this situation;
• people practicing physical activity (cycling, running, etc.). However, they must have a mask which must be worn at the end of the activity;
• drivers of motorized two-wheeled vehicles, who are required to wear a helmet.

Clear, precise and sensible.

How unlike our own dear wanksack.

I wish our rules were as clear as that.

As always, in one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, we need paragraph-upon-paragraph of subtexts addressing potential loopholes (which inevitably fail to do so.)

Thankfully, we have the multi-faceted German social-shaming culture which mandates mask-wearing at all times anyway. Otherwise, we would be in an even more precarious predicament.

Whilst I'm pleased that the government is planning to make face coverings mandatory in supermarkets again, ultimately I can chose if I enter a supermarket or not however I currently work in a school and I have no choice but to turn up every day even though masks are virtually non-existent in schools.

Last December we had loads of kids sent home as a result of positive Covid tests and there is every chance that this year will be very similar. Imposing masks in schools now would be a good way of ensuring that kids will not pick up the virus between now and Christmas and ten pass it on to elderly relatives at Christmas.

It can only be the hidden pursuit of herd immunity. Which doesn't apply with mutating virii.

Looks like Javid "announced" it earlier this evening.



And with regards to masks, that's it. No explanation of how it will be enforced, no explanation of how you will be sanctioned if you don't.

Absolutely fucking pathetic. I'm sure shop staff can't wait for tomorrow.

The usual vague promises and foot dragging.

The South African doctor who discovered this variant says the cases she has seen so far presented mild symptoms with no hospitalisation. Marr asked (hopefully I noticed) if the rest of the world and the UK should panic. She said no. Not what Marr wanted to hear so the interview ended.

The All New KevS wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:13 pm Looks like Javid "announced" it earlier this evening.

And with regards to masks, that's it. No explanation of how it will be enforced, no explanation of how you will be sanctioned if you don't.

Absolutely fucking pathetic. I'm sure shop staff can't wait for tomorrow.

Interesting.

Last night the local heritage railway updated its website to not only announce the cancellation of the last "Santa" train of the day but also to announce that masks were mandatory in all areas except where eating/drinking. Were they being proactive or had they had notification?

BBC says "Tuesday".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59449480

Expect a rush on exemption lanyards on Amazon today then...

Does the virus know it's not allowed to try to attack anyone until Tuesday?

To be fair, I think I understand why Javid said mandatory masking won't come into force until Tuesday. For something to be mandatory in law, you've got to have the law in the first place. This is because otherwise you'll get people who aren't wearing one claim that they're not breaking any law when confronted.

New laws have to go through Parliament. As this is the weekend, they won't sit until tomorrow, and although the law will sail through, realistically, it isn't going to be on the statute books until Tuesday.

Of course, what he should have said is something along the lines of "It'll become law on Tuesday, but in the meantime, we recommend in the strongest possible terms that you wear masks in the places you'll be required to".

But he didn't.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:42 pm I wish our rules were as clear as that.

As always, in one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, we need paragraph-upon-paragraph of subtexts addressing potential loopholes (which inevitably fail to do so.)

Thankfully, we have the multi-faceted German social-shaming culture which mandates mask-wearing at all times anyway. Otherwise, we would be in an even more precarious predicament.

I give you my story about the holiday in Belgium and the straightforward guides to the Maastricht treaty. Never get that in the UK, my dad said. Partly because it would be a zillion pages of legalese, and partly because enough people want to be ignorant, and others are happy to keep them that way, while passing off ignorance as world weary cynicism.

"Would you mind wearing a mask?"

"Get stuffed, I'm not doing that just because Boris Johnson tells me to!"

Last week...

"Would you mind wearing a mask?"

"Get stuffed, Boris Johnson doesn't, so I'm following his lead!"

Just got back from Asda. Busy as hell, half and half. Mostly younger people not bothering.

Cyclist wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:26 am Does the virus know it's not allowed to try to attack anyone until Tuesday?

Of course.

These time limits are as reliable as your floor bacteria and the five second rule.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:12 pm

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:42 pm I wish our rules were as clear as that.

As always, in one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, we need paragraph-upon-paragraph of subtexts addressing potential loopholes (which inevitably fail to do so.)

Thankfully, we have the multi-faceted German social-shaming culture which mandates mask-wearing at all times anyway. Otherwise, we would be in an even more precarious predicament.

I give you my story about the holiday in Belgium and the straightforward guides to the Maastricht treaty. Never get that in the UK, my dad said. Partly because it would be a zillion pages of legalese, and partly because enough people want to be ignorant, and others are happy to keep them that way, while passing off ignorance as world weary cynicism.

Cameron did have a go at publishing his "Here's what the EU does for us".
He had it dismissed as "10 million pounds of anti-Brexit propaganda"

@Bones McCoy With rising prices and lack of availability because of the lorry driver shortage that is now the ten-second rule.

I see this government by Twitter again.

Reminds me of when Ben Swain texts his resignation in the thick of it.

Just seen Javid 'interviewed' by Trevor Phillips. What a pair of fuckwits.

Javid lying through his teeth, Phillips too badly prepared to challenge him...