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Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:29 pm
by Samanfur
My MP was on Politics Live yesterday, defending Johnson’s position on this against Shami Chakrabarti (read: interrupting and talking over her a lot).

I only wish I was shocked. He's a lawyer, and I wonder what their professional standards body think of this.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:39 pm
by Andy McDandy
I get the impression (based on Braverman and Raab) that many lawyer MPs aren't actually very good at law, and go into politics a) where their faint knowledge can impress people, and b) to get revenge.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:07 pm
by Youngian
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:39 pm I get the impression (based on Braverman and Raab) that many lawyer MPs aren't actually very good at law, and go into politics a) where their faint knowledge can impress people, and b) to get revenge.
You do wonder where their law degrees came from; American Samoa University?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:11 am
by MisterMuncher
I'd sooner have Jimmy McGill.

In terms of lawyer-politician-cunts, you'll have to go some to beat Jim Allister

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:57 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Jim Allister can deliver a reasonable speech, in fairness to him.

Bill Cash is my personal bugbear for politician-lawyers. Blah blah European Communities Act 1972,

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:17 am
by Nigredo
It still rankles me that Johnson's vile and cynical false accusation re: Savile will be forever recorded in the tomes of Hansard.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:40 am
by Boiler
Before long Hansard will be getting nominated for the Booker Prize.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:31 pm
by Youngian
Britain Trump got the result he wanted

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I don't think so. I think he's just used to spouting bollocks that comes into his head.

This makes him look even worse than he did before, flailing around GB News watchers.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:51 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
He knew what he was doing.

In politics nothing happens by accident.



(Pies Corbyn was in the mob...)

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:01 pm
by kreuzberger
Johnson's long-standing policy chief, Munira Mirza, chucked it explicitly because he spurned her advice not to try that stunt.

When it comes to incitement, he is as culpable as culpable can be.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:11 pm
by Oboogie
It's calculated, paedo Starmer will be the Tory attack line for as long as Johnson remains leader.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:11 pm
by Nigredo
If there's anything to incite a radicalized mob to rabid violence quicker than Brexit, it's nonces and their apologists/defenders.

As well as the undignified stain that this lie will remain on record in Hansard, it's now threatening to deliver us another Jo Cox/Dennis Amess.

And the pork haystack won't even do a courteous action for Starmer's safety by withdrawing it and deescalating tensions. Beyond words how despicable this is.

Chris Bryant articulating my feelings very well on C4 News right now.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I didn't say it was an accident. I said he probably didn't foresee this reaction, because it's not helpful to him.

There's much deeper rooting of Republican voters in this sort of politics than there is Tory voters. Most Tories are people who just think Labour is shit with money.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Oboogie wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:11 pm It's calculated, paedo Starmer will be the Tory attack line for as long as Johnson remains leader.
It's not a good attack line though- see Tory MPs and Cabinet members avoiding it. It reminds me of George Bush Snr doing the Willie Horton advert v Michael Dukakis, except that Bush Snr was a credible "elder statesman" type. Johnson isn't, and the result of chucking out bollocks like this is that more people notice he talks bollocks.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:45 pm
by Crabcakes
The Jez fanclub are losing a few followers as well for saying he deserves it for not standing up for Jeremy. The shitebox are even trying to spin the demonstration as just against him being anti-socialist.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:56 pm
by Oboogie
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:17 pm
Oboogie wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:11 pm It's calculated, paedo Starmer will be the Tory attack line for as long as Johnson remains leader.
It's not a good attack line though- see Tory MPs and Cabinet members avoiding it.
On the contrary, it deflects media attention away from Johnson and there's always the possibility that someone might actually assassinate Starmer, throwing Labour into disarray.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Oboogie wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:56 pm
On the contrary, it deflects media attention away from Johnson and there's always the possibility that someone might actually assassinate Starmer, throwing Labour into disarray.
Well, that would deflect attention in the way that Gabby Giffords getting shot in the head outside Safeway deflected attention, but it wasn't good for Sarah Palin.

Dead cats aren't good dead cats if they confirm what people think about you. As I say, old man Bush could stink the place out with the Willie Horton ad. But if David Duke had run that, people would have just thought "There that fucker goes again!"

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:21 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Well this aged well.