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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:10 am
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:35 pm The UK can't leave the ECHR without tearing up the Good Friday Agreement that they're breaking the law to protect. Unless it's possible for Northern Ireland to stay in by itself, while GB leaves. I'm not sure if part of a country can remain in while the rest of it leaves.

Let's ask Steven Barrett.
A lot of hoo ha aimed at Starmer for not calling out the Rwanda (and now ECHR) debacle. Unless they believe he’s woken up and become a crypto-fascist, they’re might be a good reason for it; Its mainly aimed at Starmer the do-gooder human rights lawyer who sides with bogus terrorist asylum seekers and foreign judges over democracy. If you’re betting this policy will collapse under the weight of its own ridiculousness; don’t walk into unnecessary snares.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:21 am
by Youngian
What we also know is the sort of person straight on the phone to Horace Rumpole claiming human rights violations because the police took away their bent gear, is a key Boris voting demographic.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:27 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Youngian wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:10 am A lot of hoo ha aimed at Starmer for not calling out the Rwanda (and now ECHR) debacle. Unless they believe he’s woken up and become a crypto-fascist, they’re might be a good reason for it; Its mainly aimed at Starmer the do-gooder human rights lawyer who sides bogus terrorist asylum seekers and foreign judges over democracy. If you’re betting this policy will collapse under the weight of its own ridiculousness; don’t walk into unnecessary snares.
I've seen Tweets complaining that he didn't vote against it.


There hasn't been a vote. That's kind of the point...

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:37 am
by Youngian
Depressing if the Tory vote rises next week, if it falls than I’m relaxed about the government imploding in a sea of political insanity. Despite the short term damage to this country’s reputation.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:06 am
by Youngian
Its war! with Strasbourg. A Russian oligarch bankrolled leader who wants to remove your human rights should give a nation pause for reflection. It won’t will it?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:42 pm
by Samanfur
Clarke-Smith again. Auditioning to be the new Daniel Hannan, now that the actual one is safely in the Lords.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:56 pm
by Nigredo

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:06 pm
by Oboogie
This is long overdue.
I expect he'll be dismissed as a woke Remainer.

"Boris Johnson's ethics adviser Geidt resigns"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61819747

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:36 pm
by Watchman
And more from the “Rules are for little people” handbook

Tories accused of hypocrisy for secrecy about how many days MPs clock in
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... SApp_Other

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
However, those who supported blocking the release of such information said it was wrong to endanger their safety, given it could be used by would-be attackers and harassers to target particular MPs.
How does that work? The safety issue is out in the constituencies, not in the Commons.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:56 pm
by satnav
The Tory Party has sent out an email today to members and supporters asking them to sign a petition and make donations' to help fund our campaign against Labour's strikes.'

How on earth is this allowed under electoral law? These are not Labour's strikes and what kind of campaign is the Tory Party against the strikes other than a smear campaign?

If the Tories wanted to stop the strikes Grant Shapps should get all sides together around the negotiating table. This wouldn't require the Tory party to raise any extra donations. But so far Shapps as refused to get involved.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:48 pm
by Boiler
As many have already said - this is a party in permanent campaigning mode.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:23 am
by Cyclist
satnav wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:56 pm The Tory Party has sent out an email today to members and supporters asking them to sign a petition and make donations' to help fund our campaign against Labour's strikes.'

How on earth is this allowed under electoral law? These are not Labour's strikes and what kind of campaign is the Tory Party against the strikes other than a smear campaign?

If the Tories wanted to stop the strikes Grant Shapps should get all sides together around the negotiating table. This wouldn't require the Tory party to raise any extra donations. But so far Shapps as refused to get involved.
"Labour s strikes" are the sole property of the Tories.


Next week’s national rail strike is set to be followed by further disruption because ministers are refusing to give train companies the power to discuss pay, rail industry sources have told i.

Millions of passengers are set to face travel chaos as the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT) stages three 24-hour strikes on Tuesday 21 June, Thursday 23 June and Saturday 25 June.

The first nationwide strike for thirty years follows increasing tensions between the Government and the union over its demands for higher pay and better job security.

Now, sources within the Train Operating Companies (TOCs) that run services on behalf of the Department for Transport have revealed that talks are deadlocked because they are not being allowed to properly negotiate with the RMT...

https://inews.co.uk/news/train-strike-c ... mt-1693370
The coming rail strikes are a direct result of Shapps' own policy.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:46 pm
by Watchman
But we already know the law is only for certain people, and then only if it gives the “right” decisions

Court support service under threat as Ministry of Justice pulls funding
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/ju ... SApp_Other

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:21 pm
by Spoonman
Cartoon from today's Irish Sunday Business Post...

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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Class of 2019, Jacob "Oscar Wilde" Young. He might as well have called Anna Turley Miss Poopypants,


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:14 am
by Nigredo


Part of the 2019 intake, natch.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:58 am
by Watchman
Nigredo wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:14 am


Part of the 2019 intake, natch.
What a fucking spoon!

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:34 am
by Youngian
Nigredo wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:14 am


Part of the 2019 intake, natch.
More concerned about metropolitan woke students than white working class men fighting to maintain their living standards.

Only accuse Tories of lying when they are. So Mick Lynch is on safe ground.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:39 am
by davidjay
"Labour don't represent the workers anymore."

Then:

"Labour support strikes."