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Cyclist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:35 pm I hope the Corbynites, with their usual lack of awareness, pile on with this "comes from the top" stuff. They'll (finally) be admitting who was responsible for the 2019 GE disaster.

But, but... Allotment Jesus has ALWAYS been on the right side of history!!

If, as we are constantly told, history is written by the winners, St Jeremy of the Blessed Jam Tins was definitely on the wrong side in '19.

What sort of high quality MP would push this rubbish? Oh. Pointing out how the Savile case worked is some sort of "lawyer" trick apparently.

Johnson keeps breaking the rules, his staff break it with him, and they do it when he's not there, in his actual fucking home and place of work. You're right, this is exactly the same thing as the CPS and Surrey Police failing and it being the personal fault of the DPP.

On GBeebies at the moment Dan Wootton is asking "Is Sadiq Khan London's Worst Mayor?"

Well, this sounds like so much better than the opinion-based stuff you get of Emily Maitlis.

I know I'm irritated with this stuff, but only a small part of the case v Johnson is blaming him for parties when he wasn't there. And he already apologized for that to the Queen. Funny how it was OK to comment on that, eh?

Would Khan have implemented the projects that Livingstone did if he had his cash windfall? If not than he’s London’s second worst mayor.

The government are peddling far-right conspiracy theories. That's how far they've fallen.

That's who they now are. That's all they have.

They are morally and politically threadbare which is quite some indictment for a government which has only been in office for two short years.

People spouting this rubbish in the US led to a guy spreading bullets round a pizza parlour.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 pm People spouting this rubbish in the US led to a guy spreading bullets round a pizza parlour.

Luckily, in the UK there'll only be some furious tut-tutting.

I said they were slowly becoming the Republican Party.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 pm People spouting this rubbish in the US led to a guy spreading bullets round a pizza parlour.

What incident was this?

mattomac wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:55 pm I said they were slowly becoming the Republican Party.

This is a very worrying week. If polling shows the Savile bollocks gains traction with the Brexit crowd, Johnson will crank it up to 11.

Well, they're going hell for leather with it - I noticed a few more RW journos bringing it up but worse still, the Friends Of Allotment Jesus will join in too.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:57 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 pm People spouting this rubbish in the US led to a guy spreading bullets round a pizza parlour.

What incident was this?

Here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ws-reports

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:16 pm That's who they now are. That's all they have.

They are morally and politically threadbare which is quite some indictment for a government which has only been in office for two short years.

This is now the plan, and the right wing echo chambers will amplify it. Whether or not it will work is to be seen, but it might.

A lot of political discourse is now about tapping into raw libidinal energy with nary a pause for critical thought, this being a prime example. How many of these pieces go into the nuanced detail of the workings of our legal framework, the roles of various actors within it, and explaining the long and procedural crawl towards a verdict? Probably very little because many people's civics and legal understanding are rudimentary at best, non-existent at worst. Crimes of Savile and his ilk aren't up for even cursory debate and discussion, it's the ultimate sickness and only warrants a brutal (and possibly deadly) reprimand. String nonces up from lampposts first, ask questions later. Any failure to comply with this medieval era mob rule makes you a nonce enabler and sympathizer and you should be joining them up on the gallows.

And then they'll have the temerity to whinge that society isn't as civilised or as knit-together as it was when they grew up in the 50s and 60s

I am really rather depressed at the direction we are heading, especially the Anglosphere.

Time to withdraw and play with my toys, I reckon.

'E's a nonce used to be the standard pub bully reaction to anyone who looked a bit funny, or acted a bit strange, or said something that didn't fit in with the accepted values of the pub bully. Now it's government policy.