Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:51 pm
Boris Johnson will later publish plans to scrap parts of the post-Brexit deal he struck with the EU in 2020.
The PM wants to change the Protocol section of the deal to make it easier for some goods to move between Britain and Northern Ireland.
But the EU is against the move, saying it would break international law.
The UK insists its proposals - to be set out in a parliamentary bill - are legal and will secure the future of the United Kingdom.
UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss and European Commission Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič discussed the UK government's plan on Monday morning.
Afterwards, Ms Truss said she wanted to "fix the problems with the Northern Ireland Protocol and restore political stability", adding that Brussels must be "willing to change".
But Mr Šefčovič tweeted that the UK's actions were "damaging to mutual trust and a formula for uncertainty".
Boiler wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:55 am Which party said "The NHS is safe in our hands"?1. But the running concern.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61759641
Spoonman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:13 pm I'm not sure if it was here or elsewhere, but I've said in the past that the DUP would be perfectly happy to see Northern Ireland burn to the ground as long as it could rule over its ashes in perpetuity.This has been the problem for Norn Iron and the Unionist community for many years. Their leaders don't care about the people. They don't care who can live well, who can keep a roof over their head, who can better themselves. Just do long as the union flag flies over Belfast City Hall and a Unionist is in power, that's all they want. And now, when they can see changing demographics and a changing world threatening to take that away from them, they cling on because it's the only reason for their existence.
I think (at least) the current crop of Tories would like the same for the UK as a whole.
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:40 pm Rwanda flight grounded after last minute appeal to ECHR is successful. Which I now suspect may have been the goal all along - giving Johnson a reason to pull us out of it that he can stoke a mini-Brexit over.Am I correct in thinking that a withdrawal from the ECHR gives the UK a green light to reintroduce the death penalty, or is there more to it? More to the point though... is there much of an appetite for reintroducing the death penalty amongst the public beyond the readership of certain newspapers? Because it's such a deterrent...
Boiler wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:58 pmNot all that much appetite, I don't think, and a few free votes for Ed Davey in it.Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:40 pm Rwanda flight grounded after last minute appeal to ECHR is successful. Which I now suspect may have been the goal all along - giving Johnson a reason to pull us out of it that he can stoke a mini-Brexit over.Am I correct in thinking that a withdrawal from the ECHR gives the UK a green light to reintroduce the death penalty, or is there more to it? More to the point though... is there much of an appetite for reintroducing the death penalty amongst the public beyond the readership of certain newspapers? Because it's such a deterrent...![]()
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:13 pm Papers, despite falling sales, set the news discussion agenda. Get the papers on side.Privacy laws emanate from the ECHR, the press are the main instigators for the withdrawal. Look forward to the government flushing its international reputation further down the u-bend.
Spoonman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:13 pm I'm not sure if it was here or elsewhere, but I've said in the past that the DUP would be perfectly happy to see Northern Ireland burn to the ground as long as it could rule over its ashes in perpetuity.They'd live in a hut made of their own shit if the fleg was right and the neighbours were slightly worse off
I think (at least) the current crop of Tories would like the same for the UK as a whole.