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Yeah, it's funny how big shocks always lead the writer to talk about what they'd be talking about anyway. It might as well be called "how I was right about everything all along".

If Farage and Badenoch win the day on climate change it won't be because Ed Miliband has failed to grasp the fantastic opportunity. It'll be because climate investment is hugely expensive up front and a fairly slow burner in terms of pay back. While it's obviously a necessity, there's quite a target there which talk of "green jobs" doesn't really do much to diminish.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:16 pm Hadn't seen this. Actual Labour MP here (for Southport). 52 year sentence not enough.

https://bsky.app/profile/patrickhurley. ... gd6hhdke24

I did wonder who'd complained to the ULS scheme. It looks like we know the answer.

Stay suspended, Zarah,

I’m sure that the Blessed Jezzah also said something similar.

Alternatively, if you're not prepared to defend yourselves, you may as well get it over with early and pre-emptively surrender.

Benn would constantly remind us how many millions the Russians lost in WWII so Mr Putin couldn't possibly want war. And the Ukraine conflict was all the fault of American imperialist ambitions to expand NATO to the Urals.
What somersaults his ilk are now doing to explain Trump's withdrawal from Europe and the end of the West, I'm not clear. Apart from Starmer is a war mongering centrist dad who wants to send working class lads off to their death but not his own kids.

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:40 am Alternatively, if you're not prepared to defend yourselves, you may as well get it over with early and pre-emptively surrender.

It used to be said that Finland had signs made, in Russian, saying 'We Surrender' for use in the event of an invasion.

Not sure I believe that...

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A quick look at Zelo Street gives an idea of the mentality, as the resident Trot furiously agrees with himself:

"Security guarantees"?

Like the "security guarantees" of the last century? Don't make me laugh. They "guarantee" nothing. Not worth the paper they're written on.

Anybody who thinks the Ukraine war wasn't instigated by US/Europe greed for Ukrainian natural resources is living in the usual far right cloud cuckoo land. The US nazi senator Graham has banged on for years about stealing them.

NATO is, and always has been, the main source of tension across Europe. It even stuck its blood stained fingers in the Middle East.

So not unexpected the greed will make a last ditch attempt in any long overdue peace settlement. Which Britain is now irrelevant to anyway.

Ah yes.....Dan "If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure" Quayle. As thick as pigshit.

The minor British equivalents are Dipshit Lammy and 30p Lee. Over in Europe there's, for instance, unelected Von Der Lyin' [sic] from a nazi family and Mad Meloni from a fascist family.

The Yanks aren't the only ones to produce poisonous morons and sociopaths. Britain has nothing to be complacent about, not with the most corrupt city in the world as its capital and a pm who doesn't even pay for his suits and glasses.

Quayle, Schmayle. At least the Yanks got rid of him pronto - but that was then, now they elect his equivalents, as Britain elects them.

And don't get me started on Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Stumblebum Ford, Carter, Senile Reagan, the Bush dynasty, Clinton, Obama, Senile2 Biden and now Trump. A roll of dishonour and criminality.

The "centrist not-at-all fascist" Stürmer wants to put British soldiers in harm's way in the Ukraine war. All, of course, to the delight of the nazi-supporting Rothermere Daily Heil. Nor, equally of course, would he send any of his own children into that sordid meat grinder. The utter, utter warmongering shithouse.

Meanwhile, Britain would last about 20 minutes in a nuclear exchange. While Stürmer cowers under a rock in Omaha.

As far as I can tell, he's watched JFK a few too many times and is convinced that all hope died in Dallas that day.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:10 pm

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:40 am Alternatively, if you're not prepared to defend yourselves, you may as well get it over with early and pre-emptively surrender.

It used to be said that Finland had signs made, in Russian, saying 'We Surrender' for use in the event of an invasion.

Not sure I believe that...

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The Soviet Union found to their cost that the Finns were not people who would roll over in the event of war. They gave the Soviets a bloody nose or two during WW2.

Simon

Quite, that's why I was sceptical.

Von Der Lyin' [sic]

Andy, please tell me the [sic] was in the original. It's too perfect.

Not a word changed.

'Oi, fuckface! [now, I know you aren't a fuckface, I'm not sure what that would actually look like, but trust me on this: I don't mean it literally. I'm deploying a metaphor, to express my feelings for/about you in a way commensurate with our social environment and my intentions']'

said nobody ever
except the guy who put [sic] after his own [sick] burn.

Incredible.

Quayle, Schmayle. At least the Yanks got rid of him pronto - but that was then, now they elect his equivalents, as Britain elects them.

And don't get me started on Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Stumblebum Ford, Carter, Senile Reagan, the Bush dynasty, Clinton, Obama, Senile2 Biden and now Trump. A roll of dishonour and criminality.

Mike Amesbury has been given a 10 week sentence after pleading guilty to an assault charge on one of his constituents. So he falls short of the automatic threshold (12 months) for disqualification as an MP, but it's now very likely that a recall petition for a by-election will be triggered, and no doubt succeed.

A somewhat unwelcome by-election would then ensue.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:05 pm

Quayle, Schmayle. At least the Yanks got rid of him pronto - but that was then, now they elect his equivalents, as Britain elects them.

And don't get me started on Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Stumblebum Ford, Carter, Senile Reagan, the Bush dynasty, Clinton, Obama, Senile2 Biden and now Trump. A roll of dishonour and criminality.

I'm sure that video has a deeply significant narrative in there somewhere (don't worry, you'll still get a new kitchen ?), but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Increased luxury and reliance on consumer goods contrasted with loss of innocence and optimism as our dreams are crushed under the weight of the system.

Yeah, I thought it might be that :-/

My take is "there's always been bad shit happening, so stop moaning at young people". Admittedly this treats 39 year old Billy Joel as young, but that's how aging pop stars tend to see themselves.

I actually like the song, though perhaps more for how it's a framework for parodies than for its own intrinsic merits.

He now has another 30 years to write a sequel.