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Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:00 pm The Independent here pretending that the EU "exit bill" (ie liabilities accrued during our membership) wouldn't have had to be paid anyway, just to stick it to Starmer.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 30357.html

"Independent'?

A piggy bank. An actual fucking piggy bank.

So what should they have used instead?

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:13 pm So what should they have used instead?

What should who have used and for what purpose?

Labour used a piggybank metaphor and I'm asking Phillip what should they have used instead.

Jobcentres didn't have long queues of people trying to get in, even in 1979. Likewise, when you save work on your computer, it's unlikely you use a floppy disk.

Images convey messages, and have heft.

I think this is fair enough. Spending the contingency on (as far as I can tell) nothing which couldn't have been foreseen is like raiding a piggy bank. You need to restock the contingency, hence tax rises and extra borrowing which are likely coming in the budget.

This isn't to me like the bad, more general household budget analogies you get. I think reducing the current deficit is something the government very much should be doing (though not with the benefit cuts apparently coming).

A suitable alternative to the smashed piggy bank would be Sunak in a mask and stripey jersey with a swag bag full of cash. These ads aren't aimed at Stephanie Flanders.

Is that you, Arnold?

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:47 pm Labour used a piggybank metaphor and I'm asking Phillip what should they have used instead.

It’s ye olde ‘the national budget is just like a household budget’ bollocks. Again.

You don't like it and find it hackneyed. It's not an accurate analogy. But it is a good visual shorthand way of getting the message they want across.

Again, what would be a better visual metaphor?

Given that the analogy in question is generally employed in the service of ‘We’re going to cut some aspect of state provision to pieces’ - and severely frayed pieces at that these days - I’m a tad suspicious of it being used at all.

Well if that's all you've got to worry about...

I’m sure the benefit reforms will be fabulous. I just reserve the right to keep an eye.

Philip Marlow wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:02 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:47 pm Labour used a piggybank metaphor and I'm asking Phillip what should they have used instead.

It’s ye olde ‘the national budget is just like a household budget’ bollocks. Again.

How about an empty safe?

Given the current state of affairs is largely due to the previous lot, a sack of shit wouldn’t be inaccurate.

Just to prove I’m only a negative Nancy 99.5% of time, this is an unambiguously good bit of policy.

Should go further and ban all flavours but Steak Bake, Islay Malt and Ashtray.

Getting the kids into the good stuff early.

I’m actually less fussed about the vape angle than I am the environmental one - it’s a lot less single use plastic rattling round, so big plus for that as well.