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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:18 pm
by Bones McCoy
What's really behind the "Bonfire of the EU Laws"

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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:59 am
by Youngian
If the Tories were audacious enough to elect Ellwood and march back to the centre right after a purge of the Johnson gang, Labour would be fucked. Rachel Reeves’ corner shop protectionist pronouncements will be taken to pieces as a Venezuelan Brexit instead of a rich Norwegian one the Tories are now offering.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:18 am
by Andy McDandy
I love this. Upgrade Brexit by, erm, totally going back on it.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:23 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Well yesterday, in error, I went through the EU Passport channel (French side) at the Tunnel. Not a word was said, passports nodded through. As Mrs A said, 'they can't be arsed with all that bollocks.'

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:42 am
by Boiler
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:18 am I love this. Upgrade Brexit by, erm, totally going back on it.
It's not totally going back on it, but SM+CU was always going to be the sane option.

Unfortunately a lot of insane foamers (not the Aussie vernacular there) wanted something that did the most damage to the country short term in order to both destabilise it and make a quick buck.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:43 am
by Youngian
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:23 am Well yesterday, in error, I went through the EU Passport channel (French side) at the Tunnel. Not a word was said, passports nodded through. As Mrs A said, 'they can't be arsed with all that bollocks.'
Still no import inspections (postponed for the fourth time) as the UK can’t be arsed with all that bollocks. Rees-Mogg has also noticed no one can be arsed with Brexit apart from Bozo.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:46 am
by Boiler

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:47 am
by Youngian
Boiler wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:42 am
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:18 am I love this. Upgrade Brexit by, erm, totally going back on it.
It's not totally going back on it, but SM+CU was always going to be the sane option.

Unfortunately a lot of insane foamers (not the Aussie vernacular there) wanted something that did the most damage to the country short term in order to both destabilise it and make a quick buck.
The decision to leave the SM and CU grew out of a tactical decision by Farage who could see the rule taker trap* down the line. Unshackled to sign our own better trade deals was plucked out of his arse with zero evidence to back it up.

* Why be a vassal state that takes rules but gives up the right to make them?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:10 pm
by Cyclist
Youngian wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:43 am
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:23 am Well yesterday, in error, I went through the EU Passport channel (French side) at the Tunnel. Not a word was said, passports nodded through. As Mrs A said, 'they can't be arsed with all that bollocks.'
Still no import inspections (postponed for the fourth time) as the UK can’t be arsed with all that bollocks. Rees-Mogg has also noticed no one can be arsed with Brexit apart from Bozo.
I think Rees-Mogg's main worry there is the risk to the position of Minister for Government Efficiency and Brexit Opportunities.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:28 pm
by Youngian
I think Rees-Mogg's main worry there is the risk to the position of Minister for Government Efficiency and Brexit Opportunities.

Someone has to monitor the milk.

It was inevitable someone in the Tory party was going to break on Brexit. Ellwood’s interest is defence and security which is not Brexit’s relative strong point.

Re: Conservatives Generallyro

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:00 pm
by mattomac
Youngian wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:59 am If the Tories were audacious enough to elect Ellwood and march back to the centre right after a purge of the Johnson gang, Labour would be fucked. Rachel Reeves’ corner shop protectionist pronouncements will be taken to pieces as a Venezuelan Brexit instead of a rich Norwegian one the Tories are now offering.
The argument on that goes you battle what is in front of you, not some fantasy, Labour will be back in power before the fantasy you mention happens.

The Tories will need a period of opposition to focus, and the simple fact is the Conservatives Elwood is part of became irrelevant in the ERG takeover.

Could it return, perhaps but it would require a massive shift and a fair few years, the youth of the party effectively subscribes to this rubbish. They’ve been battling the EU for decades.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:06 pm
by Abernathy
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:23 am Well yesterday, in error, I went through the EU Passport channel (French side) at the Tunnel. Not a word was said, passports nodded through. As Mrs A said, 'they can't be arsed with all that bollocks.'
Have you still got your maroon cover passports? Me and Mrs A do. We made sure we renewed them just before the black covered ones came in so we could at least stick a token finger up at the Brexit shite.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:23 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
No, ours are new black ones, no EU imprint at all.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:27 pm
by zuriblue
Mine are Burgundy with the EU on the cover. They’ve both got another 6 years.

Not looking forward to a gammon pass.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:55 pm
by Boiler
Mine has run out and I have no intention of renewing it.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:30 am
by Youngian
Boiler wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:55 pm Mine has run out and I have no intention of renewing it.
Will Remoaners be the main holidaymakers in Bognor and Blackpool because they can’t be arsed with the aggravation of going to the Med? While Brexiters are stuck at airports because they didn’t understand the stuff they wanted for foreigners are imposed on them.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:36 pm
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:30 am
Boiler wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:55 pm Mine has run out and I have no intention of renewing it.
Will Remoaners be the main holidaymakers in Bognor and Blackpool because they can’t be arsed with the aggravation of going to the Med? While Brexiters are stuck at airports because they didn’t understand the stuff they wanted for foreigners are imposed on them.
We Remoaners are the elite.
We all live in mahssive houses with private pools and solar reflectors.
Why bother travelling when there's so much privilege at home.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 4:10 pm
by Boiler
Bones McCoy wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:36 pm We Remoaners are the elite.
We all live in mahssive houses with private pools and solar reflectors.
Why bother travelling when there's so much privilege at home.
<looks outside at guano-covered rotten Ford and overgrown garden>

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:44 pm
by mattomac
Apparently the latest is that Liz Truss will run on a Thatcher tax cutting tribute act and that want to get Patel to run to make her look less extreme.

The only real effect I see of any of that is that Labour might actually get a majority.

She wouldn’t want to win the election otherwise her plans would probably end up in civil unrest.

Not to mention the fact she is just a bit odd, I don’t want to see it because it could be an absolute disaster for two years but it might actually annihilate them.

Also she will face the issue May had in as she campaigned for Remain and she isn’t clever enough to tackle that.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:50 pm
by Crabcakes
Truss winning would bankrupt Britain, the amount she’d spend on photos.