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She's not very bright. This is hilariously bad.

https://medium.com/@laura.pidcock.mp/in ... 1bb93ee631

The outpouring of political snobbery at Zarah Sultana’s boomerang, where she put the select committee literature from Tory candidates in the bin was so predictable and patronising. But we shouldn’t think it doesn’t have a purpose. In fact, the general outrage towards her since she was elected in December has a few purposes.

Zarah (who I'm pleased to say has got much better) was laughed at because she didn't seem to know that select committee chairmanships were allocated by party, so you needed to consider Tories if you wanted a say, which you'd expect a new MP to know. Not because she was bravely cutting through establishment rules. Anyway, select committees are often one of the more worthwhile parts of Parliament.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:52 pm Can we put ex-MPs here? Aside from being a non-sequitur, the oil rig is state owned. State capitalist and all that, but I'm not sure command economies have a great record either on this stuff.

Maybe this is the sort of "standing for something" politics some want from Labour, but I'll swerve that, thanks.

I've seen quite a few people on twitter claim this is the fault of capitalism without bothering to check who the company was.

I wonder what she thinks fire fighters use to put fires out.

Tony Benn used to point to the Bhopal disaster as a symbol for the evils of capitalism. Despite Nehru and Indira Ghandi’s mixed semi-planned economy being his life long role model.

Another former one here. He's here to stay and turning up the volume.

Another former, who to her credit seems to have dropped the Northern Independence Party. Don't want to hit her with a haddock because she was right the first time, and doesn't need to apologise. You don't chuck a controversial policy out there in the General Election Campaign because your enemies will have a field day with it. Theresa May had a reasonable idea about funding social care from inflated house prices, how did that go in 2017? It got attacked by her enemies.

I do find the "we were too good for this world" stuff annoying. Why not think about why it didn't work in the campaign? No need to have mentioned it all, I'd have thought. It compounded the sense of too many freebies, especially to some poorer voters who actually don't want fewer hours at work.

Christ this is embarrassing.

Campaign Group do Northern Ireland.



What stops a Unionist being a democratic socialist, Lloyd? Didn't know the SDLP were "Republican" either. Nor did I know that the Labour Party followed the SDLP. I knew they had an informal alliance, but hard to argue that Labour politicians like Roy Mason were nationalists, let alone Republicans.

Was Diane one of those Campaign Group embarrassments who prefered Sinn Fein to the SDLP, I wonder?

Thought a united Ireland by consent was Labour’s long standing position as it is the SDLP’s. Irish Unionism has never had a strong voice in the Labour Party.

Would you say Blair wasn't a Unionist? The difference then was that nobody asked about imminent border polls.

Don’t suspect Keep Ulster British is in Blair’s heart whereas its a raison d’etre for the Tories.
If Farage does bag a DUP seat and finds himself on the wrong side of a border referendum, who better to represent the Unionist voice in the next European Parliament.

I don't think the Tories are that bothered about the Union. Northern Ireland is full of ingrate Paddies who should be grateful for our subsidies and the Welfare State.

I think the Tories' regard for NI (and Scotland) runs only as far as not wanting to go down in history as the party that oversaw the break-up of the Union.

Though if they found a way of monetising it...

Stand by, Kim Johnson. Haddock inbound.

Liverpool MP accused of gaslighting over Labour anti-Semitism claim

Liverpool Riverside MP Kim Johnson told the BBC Dame Louise Ellman "took a decision to resign" in 2019.

In a letter at the time, Dame Louise stated she was "deeply troubled" by the "growth of anti-Semitism" in Labour...

... Johnson made her comments on BBC North West's Sunday Politics in response to criticism from Bolton West Conservative MP Chris Green about "the clearing-out of Louise Ellman and other Jewish Labour members".

She said the Labour Party "did have an issue with anti-Semitism", but added: "We do have an action plan, we have improved our position on that."

"Louise Ellman was not forced out - she took a decision to resign for the party after 22 years as a Labour MP," she said.

In a tweet, Dame Louise said she was "appalled" that Ms Johnson "denies what I experienced", adding: "This is gaslighting."...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-mer ... 806517.amp

Oh dear. "Key demand"- ie all that other stuff doesn't count.

I read today that Cuba is on the COVID red list, I think getting their death rate down might be their most pressing concern at the moment.

Zahra's got a plan.

Being very kind to her and assuming that she means just nationalize the British energy companies (BP and Centrica), do we buy them for lots of money then run them down? Who's going to be in charge? The union bloke out of Carry on at your own Convenience?

This wildfire isn't the biggest in US history- four bigger ones last year.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:17 pm Zahra's got a plan.

Being very kind to her and assuming that she means just nationalize the British energy companies (BP and Centrica), do we buy them for lots of money then run them down? Who's going to be in charge? The union bloke out of Carry on at your own Convenience?

This wildfire isn't the biggest in US history- four bigger ones last year.

Where did you get the wildfire isn't the biggest one in US history from? As for Sultana's proposals I'm not sold on them who do you get to run them is one example, another is it ignores the progress renewables have made in the last few years.

Checked on wiki about the fire after a few BTL flagged it up.