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Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 3:43 pm
by Andy McDandy
So he wants school to be a privilege for the nice kids from good families, and a punishment for the rough kids.
All of this boils down to one thing: choice. If you have money, you get choices. If you haven't, you get whatever we decide you deserve. Or whatever's left. And you'll fucking like it.
That, folks, is the entire ideology of the new right.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:11 pm
by Bones McCoy
What are Sebastian Payne's educational qualifications.
Being Mickey Gove's evil mini-me twin doesn't count as a qualification.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:23 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Also flexible working for Teachers. I mean imagine making the job attractive for potential applicants and trying to retain teachers where will it end?
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:29 pm
by Andy McDandy
Teaching is a duty, one for the better read members of the lower orders. Therefore it is unbecoming to ask for more money to perform one's duty to society.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Anyone who doesn’t thrive on the Ebacc can be kicked out at 16 and learn a proper trade.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:42 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
"You don't want money, it's a vocation..."
Try buying your kids shoes with a sense of vocation...
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:50 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:23 pm
Also flexible working for Teachers. I mean imagine making the job attractive for potential applicants and trying to retain teachers where will it end?
Yep.
We’ve got a very young teaching workforce, and everyone agrees that’s sub-optimal, with experience being lost too easily. Let’s at least try this flexible stuff, eh?
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:04 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
How does that work, exactly?
4B all round to yours for geography?
School timetables don't work like that...
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I was meaning more part time working. The DfE talk about that on the release.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:11 pm
What are Sebastian Payne's educational qualifications.
Being Mickey Gove's evil mini-me twin doesn't count as a qualification.
He’s a journalist. For the Times.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:18 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:42 pm
I was meaning more part time working. The DfE talk about that on the release.
Also working from home was mentioned as well.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:06 pm
by Andy McDandy
I think that's to do with admin and marking and so on. Although could well be a logistical headache.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:11 pm
by satnav
The Trust I work for are pushing to change the school day from 5 one hour lessons to 6 lessons which will be 55 minutes long. This will extend the school day by 30 minutes but to try and sell the changes the trust is saying that some staff might have the opportunity to start later or finish earlier if their PPA time is at the start or the end of the day. In some ways allowing staff to work at home does make a lot of sense because often there are not many places in a school where staff can work without being disturbed.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:32 pm
by davidjay
Teachers + WFH = Mailageddon.
Re: The Times
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:01 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:42 pm
I was meaning more part time working. The DfE talk about that on the release.
Same applies. Nightmare to timetable without damage to kids or excessive costs.
Re: The Times
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:04 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
satnav wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:11 pm
The Trust I work for are pushing to change the school day from 5 one hour lessons to 6 lessons which will be 55 minutes long. This will extend the school day by 30 minutes but to try and sell the changes the trust is saying that some staff might have the opportunity to start later or finish earlier if their PPA time is at the start or the end of the day. In some ways allowing staff to work at home does make a lot of sense because often there are not many places in a school where staff can work without being disturbed.
That requires a substantial timetable bonus (a greater number of teacher hours available over teacher hours needed) which very few schools have due to financial tightening. Also has cover/cost implications at a time of high teacher absence. Easier to provide accommodation.
Re: The Times
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:57 am
by satnav
The Trust are supposedly carrying out a consultation process but given the consultation is taking place over December and January I think they are just ticking boxes and the proposals will be pushed through in time for next September. At the school where I work the field we use for PE is a 10 minute walk from school so 55 minute PE lessons will be an absolute joke.
Re: The Times
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:19 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Whilst out for a walk I went into a shop and leafed through the times a yougov poll showing the Tories ahead on the econmy and this is the most unpopular incoming administration ever oh and they've lost about 34 council by elections as well. Then I came across a leader saying that Elon was right about the UK isn't business friendly and no one in the government has no knowledge of business and should be more business friendly e.g no attacks on free schools no attacks on private schools and no NI rises either.
Re: The Times
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Seb does international law, zeroing in on the Attorney General who's expressed the shocking view that international law is important, and that we should abide by treaties we've signed up to. I was thinking that sort of stuff came with the job (even if the Government as a whole didn't always live up to it), then I remembered that Seb's mates gave the job to Suella Braverman. This bad Attorney General has also attacked populism. Who does he think he is?
I'm not paying The Times to see what a Tory treaty on the Chagos Islands would have looked like. Seb must tell us, right?

Re: The Times
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:53 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It's also badly written. Having other permanent members of the UN Security Council could definitely be seen as watering down British power, but to say that it waters down the UN Security Council's membership is non-sensical. Doubtless Seb studied the League of Nations at school. One of the problems with that was major powers didn't join it. So it's not like it's mad to suggest emerging powers now might join it at some stage, or indeed big powers like Japan and Germany who are excluded because of a war that ended nearly 80 years ago. German defence policy might have been better if it had that responsibility, who knows?