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Some desperate nonsense from Robert Hardman who is not happy at the suggestion that Trump was rude to the queen.

The truth about The Queen and Donald Trump... and why Barack Obama is the most recent president to be 'rude' to Her Majesty, by her biographer ROBERT HARDMAN

In his eagerly anticipated study, A Voyage Around The Queen, my colleague Craig Brown says that after a visit from the former US president, ‘she confided in one lunch guest that she found him “very rude”: she particularly disliked the way he couldn’t stop looking over her shoulder, as though in search of others more interesting.’

The story has already prompted Trump to hit back, saying that the Queen had never had ‘a better time, a more animated time’ than when in his company. He also told Mail Online that he had heard that he was her ‘favourite president’.

Hardman bends over backward to defend Trump with stuff he allegedly dug up while writing a biography of the Queen.

As soon as he had set foot on British soil, however, Trump maintained an uncharacteristic Twitter silence for the duration of his stay with the Queen. He was determined not to do anything which might look disrespectful to her.

They had first met the year before when Trump and his wife Melania were on an official visit to the UK and came to Windsor for tea. It is always reported that he committed a great faux pas by walking in front of the Queen while inspecting the guard of honour, though it was nothing of the sort. King Charles lets his guests do the same.

The Trumps then had tea with the Queen – alone – in the Oak Room in her private wing. If it had not been going well, it would not have overrun by 20 minutes. Aides later said that the two heads of state bonded happily over a shared connection: they both had Scottish mothers and both owned a fair chunk of Scottish soil.

Their next encounter was when Trump paid a state visit to the UK a year later. It would actually be the Queen’s last. I doubt that Trump was looking over her shoulder before the banquet because the host and state visitor would always stand side by side when greeting all the guests and then talk properly one-on-one over dinner. There would then be mingling afterwards over coffee and drinks in the Blue and White Drawing Rooms. The whole point of the after-dinner reception is for the state visitor to meet other guests, not to remain attached to the monarch. The Queen would have wanted to circulate too. However scintillating Trump’s dinner anecdotes about property development and golf, I suspect that she would have been ready to share him with the other 130 guests by the time they had ‘gone through’.

After is stern defence of Trump he then claims that Obama was rude to the queen because he carried on talking to guests at a banquet when he should have known that the queen wanted to go to bed.

He then goes on to argue that Ronald Reagan was rude to the queen because he ordered American troops to invade Grenada without first warning the queen.

After listing other foreign guests who were rude to the queen he concludes by saying. In short, if Donald Trump was ‘rude’ to our late monarch, then he stands right at the back of a very long queue.

How utterly pathetic.

The Mail knows exactly who made Vicars bum all those kids

Bladdy Kids comin' over 'ere, spoiling are sarnies!

Now Gen Z are waging war on our sandwiches! How younger Brits are ditching English classics like ham and mustard in favour of fancy woke fillings

"Woke" fillings....

Gen Z Brits are turning their backs on British sandwich classics like ham and mustard and cheese and onion in favour of 'fancy' fillings like avocado, olives and continental cheese.

Young people and avocados, the devil's duo strike again.

If an elderly relative started moaning about "Young people and woke sandwiches".
You'd probably start googling symptoms of dementia and appropriate care.
But Zac Campbell pretends to be a serious journalist.

The comment about LGBLT's is the winner.

CONTINENTAL CHEESES?!!!

THAT. IS. A. DISGRACE.

OLIVES I CAN BUY IN MY CORNER SHOP????

OUUUTTTRAAAAAGEEEOUSSSSSS

Did the great sandwich bar revolution of the 80s completely pass the Mail by? People in the UK (including, I would guess, most Mail readers) have been eating 'fancy' sandwiches for forty years.

And I thought the anti-WFH battle cry is "save our Pret"

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:51 pm Did the great sandwich bar revolution of the 80s completely pass the Mail by? People in the UK (including, I would guess, most Mail readers) have been eating 'fancy' sandwiches for forty years.

Must have been over 30 years ago when I had a Larry David type run in at an eatery who refused to serve me a roll with just cheese. Plenty of other fancy choices containing cheese I didn't want
Just wanted a fucking cheese roll.

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:46 pm

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:51 pm Did the great sandwich bar revolution of the 80s completely pass the Mail by? People in the UK (including, I would guess, most Mail readers) have been eating 'fancy' sandwiches for forty years.

Must have been over 30 years ago when I had a Larry David type run in at an eatery who refused to serve me a roll with just cheese. Plenty of other fancy choices containing cheese I didn't want
Just wanted a fucking cheese roll.

Grated cheddar?

I'm old enough to remember the tea trolley coming round (I was working in an industrial lab) and I could get a cuppa and a crusty cheese roll for 2/6d.

I have become more adventurous and now have onion with my grated cheddar roll.

I've got all the breads, brown and white!

Mustard sounds a bit woke to me….

Seriously they come out with some garbage.

When I was a lad, many years ago...

I briefly worked on a fashion magazine in what was then called 'ammersmiff, and we would often get our lunch from a French place next door which slathered baguette with all manner of pâtés like it was Factor 50 on a ginger kid. This was 1979. And normal.

Its the "All pensioners remember the war and Vera Lynn" idea again.

davidjay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:07 pm Its the "All pensioners remember the war and Vera Lynn" idea again.

Written by "journalists" whose office is above a humungous branch of Whole Foods.

Mum and dad left London for Dudley in 1973, and were pleasantly surprised to find that delicatessens existed outside the smoke.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:14 pm

davidjay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:07 pm Its the "All pensioners remember the war and Vera Lynn" idea again.

Written by "journalists" whose office is above a humungous branch of Whole Foods.

And whose reaction to any detail in their order being wrong would be reminiscent of Kevin Spacey in Swimming with Sharks.

And who will next be doing a "liven up your lunchbox with these cool sandwich ideas" article for the weekend supplement.

Even more tone deaf is politicians and journalists banging on about latte drinking metropolitan elite. I bought one last week from Greggs in Wisbech. It's always busy along with every coffee Shop chain in provincial towns while pubs are emptying. Britain is mad for coffee.

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:15 pm ... Greggs in Wisbech ...

Steak-bakes have finally made it to Baltic coastal towns? Ich bin dabei.

As ever, there's not much more arrogant than lowest common denominator posturing, waving at 'the real world' with a smug wink.