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Owen is well within his rights to be annoyed by this from Julie Bindel. As he says the fact he was "too young to have been involved in the fight against Section 28" meant that he was there, in school, suffering from the prejudice that it unleashed. What a bizarre argument.

Battle of the idiots.

Here's a surprise: On the appointment of Sue Gray, wingnut Tories agree with Squealer
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/o ... e9fd&ei=15

And it has even attracted criticism from left-wing activist Mr Jones who took to Twitter today to blast Ms Gray's new Labour role.

He said: "Labour's appointment of Sue Gray meets the 'would you think this is bad if the Tories did it' test, and anyone claiming otherwise isn't being honest with themselves."

Squealer has no fucking clue, has he? Starmer knows *precisely* what he is doing with this appointment : one, it is a genuinely excellent appointment, echoing Blair’s appointment of Jonathan Powell as his chief of staff back in 97. Two, he will positively welcome the controversy this is stirring up amongst the Tories, and will have anticipated it. Reminding voters of the sordid details of the “Partygate” scandal at the very point Johnson and the Tories want it to be swept under the carpet quietly if at all possible, suits Labour’s purposes just fine. Three, the “concerns” of the likes of Rees-Mogg and Dorries simply do not stand up. Sue Gray was appointed by Johnson himself specifically as an independent option beyond reproach, but only after his first appointee, Simon Case, had to recuse himself as he’d attended some of the parties himself. Gray’s work merely documented evidence already either in the public domain or also known to the Met. Fourth, if Gray’s appointment is blocked, you can be fairly certain Starmer has an equally fine alternative option already in mind. All in all, a quite brilliant move by Starmer.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:34 pm Here's a surprise: On the appointment of Sue Gray, wingnut Tories agree with Squealer
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/o ... e9fd&ei=15

And it has even attracted criticism from left-wing activist Mr Jones who took to Twitter today to blast Ms Gray's new Labour role.

He said: "Labour's appointment of Sue Gray meets the 'would you think this is bad if the Tories did it' test, and anyone claiming otherwise isn't being honest with themselves."

Squealer has no fucking clue, has he? Starmer knows *precisely* what he is doing with this appointment : one, it is a genuinely excellent appointment, echoing Blair’s appointment of Jonathan Powell as his chief of staff back in 97. Two, he will positively welcome the controversy this is stirring up amongst the Tories, and will have anticipated it. Reminding voters of the sordid details of the “Partygate” scandal at the very point Johnson and the Tories want it to be swept under the carpet quietly if at all possible, suits Labour’s purposes just fine. Three, the “concerns” of the likes of Rees-Mogg and Dorries simply do not stand up. Sue Gray was appointed by Johnson himself specifically as an independent option beyond reproach, but only after his first appointee, Simon Case, had to recuse himself as he’d attended some of the parties himself. Gray’s work merely documented evidence already either in the public domain or also known to the Met. Fourth, if Gray’s appointment is blocked, you can be fairly certain Starmer has an equally fine alternative option already in mind. All in all, a quite brilliant move by Starmer.

“The voters outside looked from ERG to Trot, and from Trot to ERG, and from ERG to Trot again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

Apologies to Orwell (what I have actually read).

Frost’s appointment was controversial because he’s a fucking idiot. And not even a real civil servant.

Squealer’s been quiet lately. Here he is though, with nothing new to say.

In summary, He still hates Starmer. He hates the “Blairites”. The sole reason Labour will win the election is because the Tories are shite. WAAHHH !

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisf ... binet-left

After the reshuffle, Blairites dominate Starmer’s shadow cabinet. That’s bad news for the rest of us

Owen…..1997!

When Jonesy says "that's bad news for the rest of us", is he referring to his ultra-thick swivel-eyed Corbynite chums? Are they finally waking up to the fact that even a 'broad church' has to draw the line somewhere?

Jones's schtick is being the sort of well scrubbed and well spoken Trot you'd feel comfortable taking home to mother. He won't be much in demand if a competent Labour government are in power.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:42 am Jones's schtick is being the sort of well scrubbed and well spoken Trot you'd feel comfortable taking home to mother. He won't be much in demand if a competent Labour government are in power.

In the corner sulking and saying he didn't want to be in your gang anyway.

I must regretfully inform the collective that Jones has now served as the inspiration for what I suppose we must, in the interests of charity, refer to as poetry.



William McGonagall, that you should be alive on this day!

MW used to have a thread with immeasurably bad poetry written by UKIPers and Corbyn cultists. Brexit and Jez evidently no longer fire their creative pistons.

As a member of the Angry People in Local Newspapers Facebook group, I am well aware of the atrocities that can be perpetrated in the name of verse, but at least most of those people are amateurs. Boyne writes for a living, albeit more usually in prose.

It's pretty awful but still miles better than anything written by Bad Writing Takes.

Owen Jones blocked me long ago, has he been posting today?

and the Tories should be worried.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:32 pm and the Tories should be worried.

And now that’s what most of Brand’s defenders are this evening.

“Our generation’s Rolf Harris”
Owen Jones

This is the thing. If I was on the anti-woke right, my line would be "credible allegations against a man who the liberal left took to their hearts".

Wouldn't blame Jones too much for that judgement. He writes a column and campaigns on stuff. He wasn't one of the showbiz insiders or managers who are implicated.