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Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:13 am
by Nigredo
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:06 pm He was talking about reopening coal mines- bizarrely only deep ones, not open cast- before he had to put big boy trousers on as Labour leader.
One of my political interlocutors used to enjoy watching Corbynistas' heads explode when he would brand St. Jeremy as "the last true conservative in parliament" and citing things like this as evidence for it.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Can Labour stop running against London, please? I understand that Crossrail going ahead in 2010 when lots of other stuff was cancelled was bad. But it cancelled in 1994 by the Tories. And the Tories are shitting on TfL right now.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:58 pm
by Cyclist
In which "The Absolute Boy" gives his expert advice on how to run the Labour Party :roll:

Jeremy Corbyn: Keir Starmer should be bringing down the Tories, not curtailing Labour members’ rights


https://inews.co.uk/opinion/jeremy-corb ... 305962/amp
Oh fuck off Jeremy, do.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:56 am
by Nigredo
Jezza still reckons he "won the argument" doesn't he?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:30 am
by BBN
Starmer should definitely be taking lessons in how to beat the Tories from *checks notes* Jeremy Corbyn

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:55 pm
by Cyclist
Am I wrong in believing that Keir has done more "sticking it to the Tories" so far this month than St Jeremy the Politically Astute did in his whole four and a half years of sitting in the Big Chair?

Would I be even further wrong in believing that Keir has done more "sticking it to the Tories" so far this month than St Jeremy the Politically Astute has done in his whole 38 years as an MP?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:08 pm
by mattomac
It depends if it’s the actual Tories or the one he believed had taken over the Labour party

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:12 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Looks like:

David Lammy - Foreign Office
Yvette Cooper - Home Office
Lisa Nandy - Levelling Up
Wes Streeting - Health
Emily Thornberry - Shadow Attorney General
Bridget Phillipson - Education
Jim McMahon - Environment
Jo Stevens - Wales
Ed Miliband - Climate Change & Energy (loses business)

Rachel Reeves remains at Treasury

No news on Scotland, DCMS.

Corbynistas shown the door.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:52 pm
by Abernathy
I’m very, very happy about this. Cooper, Lammy, Phillipson, Nandy, Streeting, all inspired appointments.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:55 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Yup.
I can see why Rayner's people are spitting feathers.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:38 pm
by mattomac
Rayner’s people seem upset that this reshuffle isn’t about her.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:40 pm
by Boiler
Labour's longest-serving MP is to stand down at the next election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-59538838

Barry Sheerman, 81, who has been Labour MP for Huddersfield since 1979, said it had been "the honour of my life".

The former select committee chair said standing down at the next election was the right time for him and the party.

Mr Sheerman added he was proud of the work he had done over the past 42 years but was looking forward to spending more time with his family.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:52 pm
by Arrowhead
Boiler wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:40 pm Labour's longest-serving MP is to stand down at the next election.
Harriet Harman has also announced that she will be standing down at the next election.

I've only just noticed that in the 1982 Peckham by-election which first propelled Harman to parliament, her Conservative opponent was a young John Redwood.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:41 pm
by Abernathy
Margaret Hodge is also standing down. Expect more of these announcements from veteran MPs as the party begins running trigger ballots/selections.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Margaret Beckett might be one. First elected in October 1974.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pm
by Abernathy
The only reason that Labour is making progress in the polls now is that voters are finally beginning to realise that they have a venally dishonest incompetent as PM. Nothing to do with “Keith”’s contrasting competence, or canny slow but steady positioning, oh no.

That’s the line the embittered Corbots will take next, natch.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:20 pm
by mattomac
As I made the point, May was hardly Thatcher.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:20 pm
by Crabcakes
It seems Johnson has finally found the limits of how much shit the general public will swallow


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:31 pm
by Boiler
How does it go - "I'll wait for the (x) poll..."?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:37 pm
by Abernathy
A. Corbot writes : “Opinion polls are for influencing voters, not for reflecting opinion.”.

A. Nother Corbot writes : “The polling companies are all run by Tories, anyway”.