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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:17 pm
by davidjay
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:52 pm
Ah. Yeah, that’s correct actually - I read another article on the topic that was far less clear about that, but linked the Grauniad one as it was more convenient.
I’ll let Johnson off…THIS TIME!
You're on the slippery slope there.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:24 pm
by Andy McDandy
Day one, wasn't it?
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:35 pm
by Youngian
Trump’s playing a cunning mind game only big brained Boris can understand. His Trump inspired comeback ambitions are looking even slighter.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:45 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Absolutely shameful. Badenoch needs to be asked if he should be kicked out of the party for good until she agrees.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:34 pm
by Oboogie
I can't see Badenoch having the balls to boot Johnson.
On his last point, does anyone know why the frozen Russian assets haven't been seized and given to Ukraine?
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:38 pm
by Bones McCoy
Oboogie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:34 pm
I can't see Badenoch having the balls to boot Johnson.
On his last point, does anyone know why the frozen Russian assets haven't been seized and given to Ukraine?
Resting in somebody's account - probs.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:30 am
by Crabcakes
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:35 pm
Trump’s playing a cunning mind game only big brained Boris can understand. His Trump inspired comeback ambitions are looking even slighter.
This was so excruciatingly, embarrassingly desperate I almost felt sorry for the useless lump.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:01 pm
by Youngian
There's an unintentionally salient point wrapped up in that nonsense. Whenever closer European defence integration has come on the agenda in the past 25 years, Tory and Labour politicians have put their fingers in their ears and refused to contemplate any deviation from the US dominated NATO post WWII Cold War settlement. That's despite more friendly US administrations than Trump’s encouraging Europeans to do more for themselves. Well you've got the fucking message now.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:31 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is all above my pay grade, but "European Army" has never sounded that plausible to me. And the UK's done some defence cooperation with France already. Nothing to stop any of the other main EU countries (Spain, Italy, Germany) or indeed anyone else stepping up with their own inter-governmental stuff. Maybe some of them have, I don't know.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:59 pm
by Andy McDandy
We could just about bear a Yank telling Our Boys what to do (but of course we were really in control in that calm Sergeant Wilson style). The idea of Europeans (and let's face it, what they mean is the Kraaahts!) doing so would cause our news media to implode.
Where do we sign up?
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:10 pm
by Youngian
There's already an EU naval force which until Brexit was run out of Northolt.
NATO without America doesn't mean blue uniforms and EU cap badges. Having a mutual defence treaty is what matters.
British soldiers have never fought on European soil without allies with larger armies.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:06 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:31 pm
This is all above my pay grade, but "European Army" has never sounded that plausible to me. And the UK's done some defence cooperation with France already. Nothing to stop any of the other main EU countries (Spain, Italy, Germany) or indeed anyone else stepping up with their own inter-governmental stuff. Maybe some of them have, I don't know.
We managed six (or was it seven) alliances during the years of the Corsican Ogre.
Allied cooperation means two things:
An element of unified command (Not achieved util the sixth coalition - 1813-14).
Joint Manoeuvres (From the BAoR contribution to NATO in West Germany).
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:17 am
by Youngian
Wanking for coins. The lucrative lectures never came. Will he be rolling out the Bozza crypto coin?
Boris Johnson is charging fans £121.25 each for a meet and greet before an event in Edinburgh.
The former prime minister, who will appear on 2 September at Usher Hall, will pose for photographs and shake the hands of guests who stump up the fee, before speaking at an event titled An Evening with Boris Johnson.
Tickets for the main event cost between £53.90 and £159.90, charged in addition to the meet and greet fee. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 01462.html
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:21 am
by Andy McDandy
"Do Oven-ready Brexit deal!"
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:26 am
by Crabcakes
I have just realised the real aim behind Johnson’s awful, awful tweet. It’s him desperately trying not to have to choose. He LOVED being Ukraine’s best pal and having those overseas trips where he was welcomed as the powerful friend. He also loves being in. Trump’s orbit - and the financial opportunities being a Trump-adjacent pundit or speaker can bring.
But now Trump is actually back in charge and has his orders from Putin, he can’t be best buds to both AND he’s finding out first hand that whatever he advised Trump, and whatever Trump told him he would do, wasn’t worth shit. So now he’s being forced into a binary option where one of the sides will absolutely hate him for being a traitor.
A decent person would immediately make the obvious choice. So you can see why instead he’s procrastinating in the most embarrassing way possible.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:23 pm
by Youngian
Not impressing any side if he's hawking selfies for £120 a shot.
Maybe he could try Nigel's latest line on Trump; the media is too obsessed with quoting words people said. At least one in five want this man to be PM
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:01 pm
by Crabcakes
In a rare moment of not being a shit, Johnson has shifted and has issued statements that clearly refute Trump’s take and support Ukraine.
Admittedly he was in Ukraine when he uttered them, so I’ll reserve full judgement until the next time he’s in the US sucking up to Twitler.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:50 pm
by Crabcakes
That lasted even less time than I thought.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:56 pm
by Youngian
But appearing on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme this morning, Johnson insisted “we are very close to getting this minerals agreement signed between the United States and Ukraine”.
We?! And what the fuck does he know about the progress of the negotiations?