:sunglasses: 40.6 % :pray: 8.5 % :laughing: 30.2 % 🧥 4.7 % :cry: 12.3 % :🤗 3.8 %
#84247
Crabcakes wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:52 pm Ah. Yeah, that’s correct actually - I read another article on the topic that was far less clear about that, but linked the Grauniad one as it was more convenient.

I’ll let Johnson off…THIS TIME! 😁
You're on the slippery slope there.
#84759
Youngian wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:35 pm Trump’s playing a cunning mind game only big brained Boris can understand. His Trump inspired comeback ambitions are looking even slighter.
This was so excruciatingly, embarrassingly desperate I almost felt sorry for the useless lump.
#84765
There's an unintentionally salient point wrapped up in that nonsense. Whenever closer European defence integration has come on the agenda in the past 25 years, Tory and Labour politicians have put their fingers in their ears and refused to contemplate any deviation from the US dominated NATO post WWII Cold War settlement. That's despite more friendly US administrations than Trump’s encouraging Europeans to do more for themselves. Well you've got the fucking message now.
#84774
This is all above my pay grade, but "European Army" has never sounded that plausible to me. And the UK's done some defence cooperation with France already. Nothing to stop any of the other main EU countries (Spain, Italy, Germany) or indeed anyone else stepping up with their own inter-governmental stuff. Maybe some of them have, I don't know.
#84776
We could just about bear a Yank telling Our Boys what to do (but of course we were really in control in that calm Sergeant Wilson style). The idea of Europeans (and let's face it, what they mean is the Kraaahts!) doing so would cause our news media to implode.

Where do we sign up?
#84778
There's already an EU naval force which until Brexit was run out of Northolt.
NATO without America doesn't mean blue uniforms and EU cap badges. Having a mutual defence treaty is what matters.
British soldiers have never fought on European soil without allies with larger armies.
#84781
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:31 pm This is all above my pay grade, but "European Army" has never sounded that plausible to me. And the UK's done some defence cooperation with France already. Nothing to stop any of the other main EU countries (Spain, Italy, Germany) or indeed anyone else stepping up with their own inter-governmental stuff. Maybe some of them have, I don't know.
We managed six (or was it seven) alliances during the years of the Corsican Ogre.

Allied cooperation means two things:
An element of unified command (Not achieved util the sixth coalition - 1813-14).
Joint Manoeuvres (From the BAoR contribution to NATO in West Germany).
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#84800
Wanking for coins. The lucrative lectures never came. Will he be rolling out the Bozza crypto coin?
Boris Johnson is charging fans £121.25 each for a meet and greet before an event in Edinburgh.

The former prime minister, who will appear on 2 September at Usher Hall, will pose for photographs and shake the hands of guests who stump up the fee, before speaking at an event titled An Evening with Boris Johnson.

Tickets for the main event cost between £53.90 and £159.90, charged in addition to the meet and greet fee. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 01462.html
#84804
I have just realised the real aim behind Johnson’s awful, awful tweet. It’s him desperately trying not to have to choose. He LOVED being Ukraine’s best pal and having those overseas trips where he was welcomed as the powerful friend. He also loves being in. Trump’s orbit - and the financial opportunities being a Trump-adjacent pundit or speaker can bring.

But now Trump is actually back in charge and has his orders from Putin, he can’t be best buds to both AND he’s finding out first hand that whatever he advised Trump, and whatever Trump told him he would do, wasn’t worth shit. So now he’s being forced into a binary option where one of the sides will absolutely hate him for being a traitor.

A decent person would immediately make the obvious choice. So you can see why instead he’s procrastinating in the most embarrassing way possible.
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#84912
In a rare moment of not being a shit, Johnson has shifted and has issued statements that clearly refute Trump’s take and support Ukraine.

Admittedly he was in Ukraine when he uttered them, so I’ll reserve full judgement until the next time he’s in the US sucking up to Twitler.
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