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Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:30 am
by mattomac
They are awful at this politics, oddest thing is they seem to be a government with inertia, scared of it’s shadow, whether this is off the back of how bad the mini budget went or this is how it was going be anyhow is unknown.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... s-scrapped
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:21 am
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:38 pm
Is the Express turning on Truss off its own bat, or is Braverman briefing against her?
Braverman's already shit all over the sensible policy to have lots of Indian working visas. I wonder if Truss is going to have to get rid of her pretty soon.
Braverman’s political instincts here are sound from a Tory POV. If the Tories can’t cut immigration what’s their USP with a quarter of the electorate? Worse still is these immigrants ain’t coming from white people land anymore.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 1:29 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I don't know if that's right nowadays. Johnson set liberal numbers for visas and nobody much cared. "Control" rather than numbers may be what counts.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 1:39 pm
by Andy McDandy
Perception matters too. Ten Aussies in London is normal. Two Czechs in Little Whingeing stand out.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:58 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 1:29 pm
I don't know if that's right nowadays. Johnson set liberal numbers for visas and nobody much cared. "Control" rather than numbers may be what counts.
Just for fun, I looked up how many of ‘them’ are coming in now compared to 1968 when Enoch made his infamous speech. Everyone will know the numbers from the tabloids when a Labour government inherits these figures. There weren’t any white Slovak nannies on Farage’s posters.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:57 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Jesus. Johnson has left Truss 8 by-elections? Can Truss postpone them?!
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:43 pm
by Bones McCoy
Alexa: show me three examples of the broken British constitution.
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:57 pm
Jesus. Johnson has left Truss 8 by-elections? Can Truss postpone them?!
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Johnson's also left Truss with a knighthood for Conor Burns.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:36 pm
by satnav
Apparently there is also a peerage for Paul Dacre which could prove embarrassing given that the Mail is about to face an legal battle with a number of high profile individuals over some of its dodgy news gathering methods.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:13 pm
by davidjay
satnav wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:36 pm
Apparently there is also a peerage for Paul Dacre which could prove embarrassing given that the Mail is about to face an legal battle with a number of high profile individuals over some of its dodgy news gathering methods.
Since when did this lot do embarrassed?
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:40 pm
by Abernathy
Splendid article from John Lanchester, who once again puts his finger on the button.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v44/n20 ... tcher-larp
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:45 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Smack of firm government, this isn't. Truss says nothing herself, but sends out an aide to make this bizarre attack. "Sadistic"? What does that mean in this context?
The number of Cabinet members in open revolt suggests a problem not in Gove's power to stop.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:33 pm
by davidjay
As a comment on there says, it's getting to the stage where Rees Mogg is the sanest Cabinet member.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:09 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:45 pm
Smack of firm government, this isn't. Truss says nothing herself, but sends out an aide to make this bizarre attack. "Sadistic"? What does that mean in this context?
The number of Cabinet members in open revolt suggests a problem not in Gove's power to stop.
St Helena?
Floated the idea of giving him a senior diplomatic job
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:23 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha.
In other news, Truss is reviving Chaos With Ed Miliband.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:22 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
U turn incoming on uprating benefits apparently. Sanity to prevail.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:53 pm
by satnav
I didn't think Truss had a sense of humour until she replaced Conor Burns with an MP whose surname is 'Hands'.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:54 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Truss has had a reasonable day- best so far. Decided that, on balance, markets probably didn't want a "disruptor" to replace Tom Scholar in the Treasury. And knocked down Braverman's drug nonsense.
Just the drivel about the energy efficiency campaign.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:25 pm
by Youngian
And knocked down Braverman's drug nonsense.
Enraging social conservatives is an unexpected bonus to Truss’s premiership. According to Dorries, Truss has also junked the Online Safety Bill which is vigorously opposed by civil liberties groups and industry voices for a number reasons I’ve forgotten.
Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:49 pm
by davidjay
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:54 pm
Truss has had a reasonable day- best so far. Decided that, on balance, markets probably didn't want a "disruptor" to replace Tom Scholar in the Treasury. And knocked down Braverman's drug nonsense.
Just the drivel about the energy efficiency campaign.
Then again, a reasonable day for Truss is not setting fire to Downing Street or declaring war on Portugal.