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In Sunak's case I'm sure it's because it's horribly thin skinned. In Braverman's case while I expect that's also true, I wonder if part of her dislikes the insinuation she's a sellout to her family background because it's an uncomfortable reminder that the people she wants to appeal to would be perfectly happy to see her occupying the exact same gulags and camps they'd love to shove everyone they consider undesirable into. And no prizes for guessing what single criteria will be used to decide undesirability.

I’m sure this tweet in particular went down well.



Whether they’d actually have chucked her out or not, her support for Hussain presents the party with a gift wrapped opportunity to portray her as the real bigot. If she’d been willing to toe the line on the culture war stuff, or just keep her mouth shut, things might’ve been different. Can’t say I don’t think better of her for declining.

I know Frost doesn't write headlines but an abscence of self-awareness prevents him from asking the subs desk not to make him look a tit.

An apt response.

Theresa May's pointed out that it might have been a good idea to take the Lib Dems a bit more seriously. While I don't necessarily think that all the Tory-LD switcher are liberals, I think it's hard to deny she's right.

Nick Timothy takes it as well as you'd expect. "Centre ground" is fairly well-disposed to people who move to Britain for work, as it happens.

Timothy should be careful what he wishes for, Lib Dems may start pointing out who is to blame for rising 'commonwealth' immigration since 2016.

They could learn but it’s going give them a few years I guess.

They just can't help themselves

Police are continuing to investigate the expenses of a Welsh Conservative politician despite having decided to close the case, BBC Wales has been told.

Laura Anne Jones is under investigation after texts from her phone appeared to show an employee was asked to maximise expenses claims on her behalf...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c30l1gv7933o.amp

What a nasty piece of work Oliver Dowden is.

Mr Dowden joked: “One of the central arguments evinced by the Paymaster General should be there by ‘an accident of birth’, yet today’s Labour Party reeks of the hereditary principle!

“The elevation of the nepo-babies of north London, the coronation of the red princes, the Goulds, the Falconers, the Kinnocks, the Benns, the Eagles, the Reeves. And hard to describe them or Georgia Gould as "princes"- one of the objections to hereditaries is that by definition, they are nearly all men.

“Many of them distinguished members, but under Labour’s closed shop it’s hereditary peers out, hereditary MPs in!”

Angela and Maria Eagle came from a working class background in Merseyside. Ellie and Rachel Reeves are the daughters of teachers in Beckenham.

As for the others, how is that different to Victoria Atkins (daughter of Cabinet minister), defeated Bill Wiggin (son of Tory MP), Boris Johnson (son of Tory MEP), Bernard Jenkin (son of Tory Cabinet Minister). I thought backgrounds didn't count?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:11 am What a nasty piece of work Oliver Dowden is.

Mr Dowden joked: “One of the central arguments evinced by the Paymaster General should be there by ‘an accident of birth’, yet today’s Labour Party reeks of the hereditary principle!

“The elevation of the nepo-babies of north London, the coronation of the red princes, the Goulds, the Falconers, the Kinnocks, the Benns, the Eagles, the Reeves. And hard to describe them or Georgia Gould as "princes"- one of the objections to hereditaries is that by definition, they are nearly all men.

“Many of them distinguished members, but under Labour’s closed shop it’s hereditary peers out, hereditary MPs in!”

Angela and Maria Eagle came from a working class background in Merseyside. Ellie and Rachel Reeves are the daughters of teachers in Beckenham.

As for the others, how is that different to Victoria Atkins (daughter of Cabinet minister), defeated Bill Wiggin (son of Tory MP), Boris Johnson (son of Tory MEP), Bernard Jenkin (son of Tory Cabinet Minister). I thought backgrounds didn't count?

I am the scion of a long titled heritage.
They are nepo-babies.

Tory politician's wife jailed for race hate post

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo

The wife of a Conservative councillor has been jailed for 31 months after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire.

The Moggman cometh.

But erm, British slave owners did get compensation payments for losing their slaves, did they not? Rather large ones.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:48 am But erm, British slave owners did get compensation payments for losing their slaves, did they not? Rather large ones.

Biggest loan in history - ever...

"Lammy urged to push for reparations". I see what they did there.

The fact that the loan to pay reparations to slave owners was only paid off in 2015 did generate a bit of discussion as I recall.

Pay us! We did it out the kindness of our hearts!
What's that, you did?
WELL I don't think that's important

Every time these fuckers surface…

That's what Jesus would have done after an act of Christian charity, of course. Demanded payment.

Britain was, of course, one of the leaders in the industrialisation of slavery. It didn't just do a bit of it, like previous societies, but it took it to a whole different level (along with other European powers, obviously). You don't get kudos and slaps on the back for stopping something if it was you that gleefully started it.
And it's no coincidence that Britain started to develop more of a conscience when it realised that mechanical industrialisation from the late C18 onwards didn't need either assistance nor competition from the cheapest labour possible. It wasn't all about doing the morally correct thing.