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An interesting postmortem - by a Tory.

He's not far off in spotting the shortcomings of the five leaders.

https://conservativehome.com/2024/07/09 ... dishonour/

What a predictable start from the new member for West Suffolk.

If you want a good laugh and are still signed up to the hellsite that used to be Twitter, Adam Bienkov’s feed of snippets from pop-con is hilarious. They’re all just coming up, one after another, to say how everything is everyone else’s fault and that they’d obviously had won if only they had been bigger cunts.

Just staggering.

https://www.ft.com/content/45b7a207-4d0 ... 66d8dfa559

One of Hunt's spads reckoned the OBR are about to downgrade growth. which might help explain the early election.

I don't know what Labour should do about this. Shift its fiscal target back a bit?

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:29 pm An interesting postmortem - by a Tory.

He's not far off in spotting the shortcomings of the five leaders.

https://conservativehome.com/2024/07/09 ... dishonour/

Plenty of the usual bollocks - Brexit was a 'lucky escape', austerity didn't happen, Gordon Brown's fault for weathering the 2008 crisis, Theresa May was a 'good egg' (hostile environment, anybody?), so not all that rigorous, I'm afraid.

Oh man.

And Michael Hestletine and Ted Heath, I expect.

Any idea what Bannerman’s argument is?

Not an MP but this moron is going to be nowhere near power, hopefully ever.

Leftist zeitgeist like long NHS waiting lists, perhaps.

Kemi displaying her diplomatic skills

Kemi Badenoch used first meeting of shadow cabinet to criticise Rishi Sunak's election campaign amid concerns colleagues are failing to grasp enormity of defeat

* Badenoch said that Sunak's decision to call an early election without informing his Cabinet was a mistake and bordered on 'unconstitutional'

* Badenoch said that instead of telling Cabinet ministers first Sunak had opted to inform a small group of colleagues, including his PPS Craig Williams who subsequently admitted placing a bet on the election date. She described Williams as a 'buffoon'

* Badenoch said Sunak's decision to return early from D-Day commemorations was "disastrous" and had dominated the election campaign, adding that colleagues like Penny Mordaunt would still be MPs today if he had stayed longer in France.

* She said many Tories were clearly still traumatised. She said Suella Braverman, former home secretary, appears to be having a 'very public' nervous breakdown

https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/18 ... 08605?s=46

Apparently she also stressed the need to ensure that discussions in shadow cabinet should not be leaked!

She spoke of the importance of shadow cabinet discussions not being leaked.

Not exactly Garry Kasparov, is she?

With Braverman and Badenoch both slagging off their party and its leader so soon after the election I beginning to think that the leadership contender who keeps quiet for longest could well be favourite to win. I could well see somebody like James Cleverly emerging as the unity candidate capable of pulling the party together.

The Tories always used to prefer their leader to look like they didn't want the job really but would run for office in an "Oh well, if nobody else will" way. Johnson changed all that but whether he was a one-off (please God) we'll have to see.

This doesn't surprise me at all

A student dinner that caused alarm and condemnation after some guests appeared to sing along to a Nazi marching tune was attended by the Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) for Warwickshire.

According to the PCC's office, Philip Seccombe paid to attend the University of Warwick Conservative Association's dinner on 15 June in a personal capacity and not through his PCC role, in which he serves as a Tory...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9r3ld91p6wo.amp

The fash are gonna fash.

I do think his position as PCC should be reviewed as a matter of some urgency.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:11 pm Oh man.

And Michael Hestletine and Ted Heath, I expect.

Only those two. I had Robert Carr and Lord Soames on the list as well along with Jim Prior and Iain Macleod.

If he's not there in his capacity as PCC, then why is he there at all? He's a bit old and employed to be an undergraduate.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:18 pm Any idea what Bannerman’s argument is?

Grandad was a big politician, donate to my gofundme, where's the free bar.

Was David Campbell-Bannerman originally a Liberal before becoming a right wing looney? Along with Liz Truss, Lembit Opik and Mark Littlewood whose journeys also make little coherent sense. Whereas pissed off One Nation Tories becoming Lib Dems aren’t making any great political leap apart from suddenly being converted to PR.