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Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:13 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:15 pm
"Barred from standing as a Lib Dem MP"
Not selected to stand as a LIb Dem MP.
FTFY
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:32 pm
by Oboogie
Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:15 pm
If true, and "barred from standing as an MP" suggests we aren't getting the whole story.
I certainly don't know the whole story, however I note that the court, who have heard the whole story, found in favour of the former candidate. I wonder what the LibDems did wrong? We need a better source.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:54 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Cuddly old trains guy, Christian Wolmar, wades in with a "trans activists are like paedophile campaigners".
https://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2025/ ... spectable/
The "all too obvious parallels" are that some psychologists support trans rights as opposed by Wolmar and that the public don't support some of the positions. Wolmar's position is that a trans woman who hasn't had drugs or surgery is a man. You can oppose self-id and still disagree with that.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:32 pm
by Crabcakes
Good grief. That’s one of the most absurdly offensive articles I’ve ever read - not so much asking the reader to join the utterly nonexistent dots as screaming in their face “LOOK!!LOOK AT THE DOTS!! I CAN SEE THEM - WHY CAN’T YOU? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM AS WELL??”
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Friend of mine sat next to Christian Wolmar at a lunch once, nice bloke apparently. And a good writer on railways.
This sadly is what happens when such a man goes off road. Or off rails, perhaps.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:16 pm
by satnav
With the Lib Dem story it would appear that the candidate had been seeking £90,000 in damages and the Lib Dems offered her £40,000 to settle out of court an offer she declined. This would suggest that she either got very poor legal advice or that she is very stubborn. She may have pocketed £14,000 but I suspect that she has not done herself any favour when she applies for jobs in the future or seeks to return to politics.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:48 pm
by Bones McCoy
The Magas have a paedophile's charter of a solution.

Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:14 pm
by Philip Marlow
A terrible crime has been committed. I will now go on to explain at great length why the hideous freak had it coming.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:53 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Two things can be true.
1. Stabbing someone is bad.
2. So is tricking someone into having sex with you.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:06 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
3. We need to do something about toxic masculinity amongst young men.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:58 am
by Oboogie
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:06 pm
3. We need to do something about toxic masculinity amongst young men.
Whilst noting that, in this case, the main culprit (ie the one who did most of the stabbing) was a young woman.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:25 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
But the gang and it's mores...
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:48 pm
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:53 pm
Two things can be true.
1. Stabbing someone is bad.
2. So is tricking someone into having sex with you.
1. Stabbing someone 9 times while a mob is still kicking and punching her is not “bad”, it is *horrifying*
2. The lad who kissed her and got her to give him a blow job didn’t seem to care at the time, did he? Because he could have at any point said “no thanks” if it bothered him. And if you’re the (trans) girl in that sort of scenario at his house, maybe, just maybe you might not want to say “yeah, actually I’m trans” because you’re already worried a kicking might be coming your way if you do, even if nothing has happened.
I would tread very carefully here, because both-siding this - or appearing to from the way you’ve phrased it - is skating remarkably close to saying she deserved this. Which is sickening to watch.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/t ... 05333.html
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:12 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I never, ever, ever said she deserved it.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:43 pm
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:12 pm
I never, ever, ever said she deserved it.
If you’d care to read what was written, I never said you did.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:03 pm
by The Weeping Angel
You implied it though.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:14 pm
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:03 pm
You implied it though.
No, I said exactly what I meant - both siding it is skating remarkably close to saying she deserved it. Because it is.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:35 pm
by The Weeping Angel
No it isn't don't put words in my mouth.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:11 pm
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:35 pm
No it isn't don't put words in my mouth.
That’s your opinion. I’ve said precisely what I mean. Anything you choose to take away extra to that is up to you.
I don’t think you did mean she deserved it, for what it’s worth. But I also think someone could easily use very similar language to imply exactly such a thing. Hence my post.
Re: The Gender Identity Issue.
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:50 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I didn't.