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This from a guy called David Clayton-Thomas, posted on Facebook.

Someday the true story of Donald Trump’s Russian connection will be told and it will read like a spy novel worthy of Tom Clancy…
It’s the story of a beauty pageant that led to the election of a President.
In November of 2013 Donald Trump held the Miss Universe Contest in Moscow.
At the time Trump was beyond broke… He was deeply in debt and after five bankruptcies, not a bank in America would lend him money.
For a week Mr. Trump and a bevy of the most beautiful women in the world partied with all the big wigs in Russia… politicos, oligarchs, rock stars, celebrities, even Vladimir Putin himself.
There has been much speculation about what went down in that week of booze, babes and big money, but whatever it was, it changed the course of history.
A few months later the Trump organization received a massive infusion of cash from Deutsche Bank… a German banking giant that has routinely paid millions in fines for illegally laundering money for the Russians.
Trump left Moscow with the financial backing he so desperately needed and Putin had his hooks in Trump.
In 2015 Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS and Putin began actively cultivating his asset.
The Mueller report States unequivocally that Russia conducted a systematic misinformation campaign designed to tarnish Trump’s opponents and promote his candidacy.
Russia’s influence in the 2016 election was pervasive and it worked…
With Putin’s help Donald J Trump became the 45th President of the United States and he wasted no time paying off the debt he owed to his pal Vladimir…
Trump spoke glowingly of him every chance he got… every executive decision benefited Putin.
He ceded the middle east to Russia, withdrew from Syria and allowed Putin to fill the void.
He turned his back on Ukraine, the last bastion standing between Russia and a free Europe.
He disavowed NATO, the alliance that had held Russia at bay for over 70 years.
He pulled US troops out of Germany… something the Kremlin has always wanted.
At the Helsinki summit, Trump chose to publicly believe Putin over his own intelligence agencies.
He attacked America’s friends and embraced her enemies just as Vladimir wanted.
At home Trump became the divider in chief, driving deep divisions between all the different factions of American society.
To divide America from within… to drive a wedge between blacks and whites, rich and poor, left and right, has long been a part of Putin’s KGB playbook.
Russian hackers are inflaming racial tensions across the country, infiltrating radical groups and planting disinformation on social media.
We can only hope that the US Intelligence Services are prepared to address this threat because obviously Mr.Trump isn’t.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:22 pm The irony, if what the above suggests is true, of Joe Biden having withdrawn from running against Trump because he was suspected to be suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer’s, is off the scale.

Mind you, having Alzheimer’s never seemed to be a problem for Ronnie Reagan.

Bonus observation: Trump and his minions are notorious for projecting what they are doing/hiding onto others. So if they say Biden had early signs of dementia…

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:56 pm Bonus observation: Trump and his minions are notorious for projecting what they are doing/hiding onto others. So if they say Biden had early signs of dementia…

This ^ ^
See also Hilary Clinton and the paedophilia allegations

If Joe Biden had made a statement claiming that Ukraine had started the war with Russia the media would have accused him of making a major gaffe, when Trump made the claim the media refused to call it a gaffe, the best they could manage was to say that he was rewriting history.

Was it a gaffe? I assumed it was intentional. A lie.

According to Dr. Google;

The rate of progression for Alzheimer's disease varies widely. On average, people with Alzheimer's disease live between three and 11 years after diagnosis. But some live 20 years or more.

We need a better shot.

FUCK. Could some of you please come and help me get my jaw off the deck ?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/tr ... ngNewsSerp

Trump shares bizarre AI vision of what Gaza will look like under his rule

It's Biff Tannen. Biff bloody Tannen.

And yes, I know "bad future Biff" was based on him....

So why is business genius Trump shunning the world's biggest single market plus the UK for Russia which has a GDP the size of Australia?
Maybe he's a Chinese and Canadian asset as well as a Russian one.

From a Facebook friend :

The more I hear about this "deal" the less sense any of it makes.
If Ukraine is going to give resources to the US you'd assume that would involve some continuing support, but that'd betray Putin and continue the war much as it was, so that's not happening. So what is Ukraine giving them resources for? Trump says it's for services rendered but Zelensky isn't going to sign up to that. Trump (who just makes it up as he goes along) has said Putin will accept European peacekeepers but he's made it very clear that he won't.

And where are these resources coming from ? Territory controlled by Ukraine, or by Russia? And if it's Russia, why does Trump need to do a deal with Ukraine anyway?

Also, how does Vlad get his cut from this “mineral deal”

Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:41 pm This from a guy called David Clayton-Thomas, posted on Facebook.

Someday the true story of Donald Trump’s Russian connection will be told and it will read like a spy novel worthy of Tom Clancy…
It’s the story of a beauty pageant that led to the election of a President.
In November of 2013 Donald Trump held the Miss Universe Contest in Moscow.
At the time Trump was beyond broke… He was deeply in debt and after five bankruptcies, not a bank in America would lend him money.
For a week Mr. Trump and a bevy of the most beautiful women in the world partied with all the big wigs in Russia… politicos, oligarchs, rock stars, celebrities, even Vladimir Putin himself.
There has been much speculation about what went down in that week of booze, babes and big money, but whatever it was, it changed the course of history.
A few months later the Trump organization received a massive infusion of cash from Deutsche Bank… a German banking giant that has routinely paid millions in fines for illegally laundering money for the Russians.
Trump left Moscow with the financial backing he so desperately needed and Putin had his hooks in Trump.
In 2015 Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS and Putin began actively cultivating his asset.
The Mueller report States unequivocally that Russia conducted a systematic misinformation campaign designed to tarnish Trump’s opponents and promote his candidacy.
Russia’s influence in the 2016 election was pervasive and it worked…
With Putin’s help Donald J Trump became the 45th President of the United States and he wasted no time paying off the debt he owed to his pal Vladimir…
Trump spoke glowingly of him every chance he got… every executive decision benefited Putin.
He ceded the middle east to Russia, withdrew from Syria and allowed Putin to fill the void.
He turned his back on Ukraine, the last bastion standing between Russia and a free Europe.
He disavowed NATO, the alliance that had held Russia at bay for over 70 years.
He pulled US troops out of Germany… something the Kremlin has always wanted.
At the Helsinki summit, Trump chose to publicly believe Putin over his own intelligence agencies.
He attacked America’s friends and embraced her enemies just as Vladimir wanted.
At home Trump became the divider in chief, driving deep divisions between all the different factions of American society.
To divide America from within… to drive a wedge between blacks and whites, rich and poor, left and right, has long been a part of Putin’s KGB playbook.
Russian hackers are inflaming racial tensions across the country, infiltrating radical groups and planting disinformation on social media.
We can only hope that the US Intelligence Services are prepared to address this threat because obviously Mr.Trump isn’t.

A Guardian article from 2017 confirming some of the above.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... se-in-2013

Trump's managed to get the Canadian Liberals ahead with Ipsos.

According to a Canadian pundit I was watching, Pierre Poilievre Vs Mark Carney is a man who only speaks in three word phrases versus a man who can talk in paragraphs.

I know that's true even without hearing Poliviere say anything.

I keep muddling him up with Paul Lepage, the Trumpist ex-governor of Maine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_LePage

Though I suspect that Canada being Canada, Poliviere can't be this bad.

I think Trump is desperate to push through a deal so that he can say that he has delivered his election pledge to end the conflict. He also still thinks that he is entitled to a Nobel Peace prize to match the one given to Obama. May be the Nobel peace prize panel may just oblige in the hope that once he has got his peace prize he might stepdown as president on the grounds of ill health.

satnav wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:19 pm May be the Nobel peace prize panel may just oblige in the hope that once he has got his peace prize he might step down as president on the grounds of ill health.

Wouldn’t that be a grotesque betrayal of everything the Nobel Prize for Peace stands for (even if it was set up by the guy that invented dynamite) ?

Obama appears to have received the Nobel Peace Prize for not being President Dubya.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_No ... peoples%22.

Would Europe now be more peaceful if Obama took a more hawkish line on Russia that his opponent John McCain advocated?
Possibly but Obama was also right that Al Quaeda was the existential threat to the West and Russia was offering to be an ally. Shameful though it was for anyone maintaining the fiction that the brutal raising of Grozny was another chapter in the war on Islamic terror.

Maths for MAGA voters

Workforce planning.