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Steve Peers
‪@stevepeers.bsky.social‬
Jenrick's reply profoundly fails to understand the legal & historical context. Magna Carta yada yada had not prevented a string of miscarriages of justice in UK courts; but the European Court of Human Rights had addressed some UK state excesses re the Troubles. Hence the GFA requirement of the ECHR.

Irish people tend to remember stuff like this.

Shoaib M Khan
‪@shoaibmkhan.bsky.social‬
Robert Jenrick, when asked about him ordering cartoon murals at a children asylum centre to be painted over: "I was very worried at the time and continue to be about those people who are adults, coming into our country illegally and posing as children".

What? How does that make any sense at all??

It doesn't. He just got his talking point in, however irrelevant.

Jon Sopel spoke to a Cleverly backing MP who gave his vote to Kemi in order to knock Jenrick out; "James is thick as shit but I think he'd make a rather good leader of the Conservative Party."

We need a thread called 'Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious'.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:01 am We need a thread called 'Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious'.

The Boris Johnson thread title, for example.

https://bsky.app/profile/johnharris1969 ... fp5gjqxj2y

John Harris
‪@johnharris1969.bsky.social‬
Here's K.Badenoch, who thinks an autism diagnosis entails "economic advantages and protections". She also queries providing school transport for autistic kids & has no idea what neurodiversity/divergence are, and why they have abs nothing to do with, say, anxiety. Pls repost

We're now entering the 'Is it real or is it parody?' stage.

My Nanny Vice.

Badenoch also seems to be suggesting that there has been a rise in people faking mental illness and autism, this is simply not true. When i was at school only about 50% of kids in year 11 actually took exams. The kids who were not seen as being capable of taking exams were effectively contained for 5 years. They did lots of basic Maths and English and quite a lot of practical subjects like Art, Wood work and cookery. There was little point in carrying out an in depth assessments of their learning difficulties because it wouldn't make much difference.

Today if a pupil is properly assessed learning needs can be supported using teaching assistants and reasonable adjustments. With all pupils now expected to take exams at the end of year 11 schools have a real incentive to get pupils properly assessed so that they can get the support they need and extra time and adjustments in GCSE exams.

If children with Autism don't get help in school they will definitely struggle in the world of work after leaving school.

Stephen Bush has some great stuff from this pamphlet on bluesky (probably Twitter too).

Whoever wrote it doesn't like HR people, who apparently just cause a load of problems for their employers. How does that work in the private sector? "Ah, Tomkins, I see you've made us fill in a load of pointless forms and take on more useless staff again! Jolly good! Have a bonus!" How does it work in the public sector and all?

I gather from some of the responses that it's not exactly unknown for HR to be management's enforcers.

They don't like people who work for universities either, and produce a devastating stat that only half of university staff are academics. The rest are part of the "bureaucratic class". Librarians and technicians will be among those surprised to be part of this class, who are apparently responsible for everything bad that happens in Britain (not just universities).

satnav wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:52 pm Badenoch also seems to be suggesting that there has been a rise in people faking mental illness and autism, this is simply not true. When i was at school only about 50% of kids in year 11 actually took exams. The kids who were not seen as being capable of taking exams were effectively contained for 5 years. They did lots of basic Maths and English and quite a lot of practical subjects like Art, Wood work and cookery. There was little point in carrying out an in depth assessments of their learning difficulties because it wouldn't make much difference.

Today if a pupil is properly assessed learning needs can be supported using teaching assistants and reasonable adjustments. With all pupils now expected to take exams at the end of year 11 schools have a real incentive to get pupils properly assessed so that they can get the support they need and extra time and adjustments in GCSE exams.

If children with Autism don't get help in school they will definitely struggle in the world of work after leaving school.

Until 1973 they left at 15 and worked in unskilled, low paid jobs. Or were cared for by their familes.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:22 pm We're now entering the 'Is it real or is it parody?' stage.

Pugsley, Slenderman alliance.

It's Lean management taken to the nth degree. If you're not "adding value", you're dead weight and get rid. Combine with neoconservative dogma that everything has a cash value, and the enshittification theory where only the shareholders matter.

It's basically watching Robocop and thinking that OCP were the good guys.

I went for parody but apparently not.

“Give our membership a larger role in the future of our party ?”

Bugger me, it really is the Corbyn Project through the looking glass.

Jenrick's vowed to appoint Rees Mogg party chairman. Dear Lordie.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:22 pm We're now entering the 'Is it real or is it parody?' stage.

Mogg is so pale it looks like he’s being haunted by a Victorian ancestor

The "bureacratic class" includes all non--academic staff in universities and everyone who works in HR. And presumably Margaret Thatcher, Tom King and Alan Clark who oversaw cuts in Defence spending at the end of the Cold War.

One of the main "indentities" around the environment seems to be people worried about house prices, promoted by Conservative politicians, not lefty liberal bureaucrats.

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:49 am Jenrick's vowed to appoint Rees Mogg party chairman. Dear Lordie.

Fresh from his 19.5% swing against him. He did better than Gillian Keegan but that result doesn't exactly scream "public want to hear more from Jake" to me.