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Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:48 pm
by mattomac
Simon Case was rarely this busy under the Tories.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:20 am
by davidjay
The trouble with Brentry, or whatever label it will be given, is that it would be too time-consuming at a time when there's so much to do. We've seen that whatever the government or its individual members does will be criticised unmercifully so at this point there's little to be gained by plunging into another battle in a war that most people thought was over.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Guardian is really not being helpful is it?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... in-schools
Major fears over Labour’s nursery plan for 9-month-olds in schools
Early years experts warn of lack of staff, playgrounds and toilets
Major fears?!

Some fair points are made about very young children, the adaptations that'll have to be made and the budget for it, but it's also pointed out that lots of schools have wanted to do this anyway. Among the points made is that windows might be too high, like playgroups haven't been run in church halls since forever. Is that really a "major fear"? Sounds like one for "this isnt ideal, but if it takes off, we can fix that later". Same with other stuff mentioned like the need for a special playground for the nursery kids directly connected to the room they're in.

Apparently Labour is under "intense pressure" on this issue. Sure, it was a manifesto promise, but it was a Tory promise as well, and they never looked like getting it done.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:38 pm
by davidjay
It's all starting to look like the sort of clickbait that football websites use - "Transfer shock as City star leaves" means Coventry have given some young lad a free transfer.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Some good news here I've just seen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c14zyz2mnjlo

Lou Haigh's changed the decision by the previous government (under pressure from the likes of Theresa Villiers) to block building flats on the car park at Cockfosters tube station. There will now be 350 new flats, with a much smaller car park catering only to blue badge holders and pick up/drop off.

There are quite a lot of sites near stations in London/the South East that could be used for housing.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:59 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
davidjay wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:38 pm It's all starting to look like the sort of clickbait that football websites use - "Transfer shock as City star leaves" means Coventry have given some young lad a free transfer.
Yep.

Major fears suggests that the kids are going to get eaten by lions or something. What it means is "Labour probably won't make this target, and some of the provision won't be ideal".

Sometimes targets and promises like this aren't helpful, but in this case I think the prize (using existing buildings more efficiently, the convenience to parents, before we even mention the advantages of the nursery itself) are such that they'd give political impetus to getting the adaptations done.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
mattomac wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:48 pm Simon Case was rarely this busy under the Tories.
Hard to understand why Case hasn't be moved on. Maybe he's got the same contract the Sex Pistols had with A&M. Can't sack him just like that without giving him the loot.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:18 pm
by mattomac
Whenever he does go he will end up being “removed” by Sue Gray, does seem there are a few choices so perhaps that is the issue.

Oddly enough he has enough to be sacked, considering he didn’t write the Sue Gray report as he had been at a party himself.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:05 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Who could have foreseen this? Loads of poor pensioners have signed up for pension credit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ysis-finds

The line from the Government about targeting spending on those most in need is sensible. It should have been made more clear more quickly, but it's a good policy result. The Tories are going to have explain why they allowed so many people to go without the help they were entitled to.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:16 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Scandal


Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I wasn’t aware meeting at a fellow Parliamentarian’s house was forbidden. What am I missing?

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:49 pm
by davidjay
Long may they carry on with this sort of expose. It's doing them far more harm than us.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I think this would be good. She and Ed Vaizey seem to be leading on this, with the implication that Starmer is happy with a deal.
Thangam Debbonaire
‪@thangamdebbonaire.bsky.social‬
So this is happening - I’m off to Athens to help demonstrate cross party support for reuniting the Parthenon Sculptures. Today interview published in Greek national newspaper Ta Nea.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Simon Case has resigned.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:25 pm
by Oboogie
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:05 pm Simon Case has resigned.
On health grounds....I expect that's Starmer's fault too.
https://news.sky.com/story/uks-top-civi ... n-13225419

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Hope he's OK

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:49 pm
by NevTheSweeper
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:16 pm Scandal

Oh dear, another one.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:11 pm
by davidjay
Committee meet at committee member's house. What were they supposed to do - hire the back room of a pub?

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:20 pm
by Andy McDandy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:10 pm Hope he's OK
In the sense of average or just about adequate, he's very OK.

Re: Labour Government 2024

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:46 pm
by Abernathy
The common factor here is that anti-Labour media actors are clearly engaged on digging up whatever information that they can on Starmer, Rayner, Phillipson, Gray, and anyone else, and desperately trying to portray whatever it is as corruption and graft. The facts in every single case, however, demonstrate that there is no such thing involved, that no rules were contravened, no laws were broken, everything above board, everything properly declared. The worst that can be said about anything is that it involves poor “optics” (in plain English, it just looks bad, when the reality is that nothing bad is actually involved).

The intended effect is to undermine trust in Labour’s government and foment public dissatisfaction. And it seems to be working. I’m fairly sure that when Keir said that he was “prepared to be unpopular”, this is not what he was talking about.

Labour needs to address the “optics” issue properly, spike these bastards’ guns, and deprive them of their ammunition. This might involve a better awareness of how all kinds of things might look, or be made to look, but in the immediate term I’d suggest it requires a re-boot of the comms operation in Downing Street. I understand that Messrs Campbell and Mandelson may be available. But we’ve got five years.