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Jenrick has made a stupid statement about how all Tory MPs would be forced to back Britain's withdrawal for the European Convention on Human Rights if he becomes the party leader. This certainly wasn't the case when the referendum on Brexit was called. I'm sure that thee are still a number of Tory MPs oppose withdrawing from the European Convention on Human rights.

If Jenrick is elected and makes a big thing about the ECHR he could well find himself facing a leadership challenge within 12 months. Only 30% of Tory MPs have to send in letters to the 1922 committee to trigger a contest which is about 36 MPs.

Think lots of this depends on whether Trump wins. If he does, then he's not going to give a fuck about the Good Friday Agreement.

satnav wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:55 pm Jenrick has made a stupid statement about how all Tory MPs would be forced to back Britain's withdrawal for the European Convention on Human Rights if he becomes the party leader.

What's he going to do, withdraw the whip and ease the LibDems in to opposition? True, it's a fucking mental plan but the party members will doubtless lap it up.

Jenrick would need to upset 25 moderate Tories with wafer thin majorities enough to form an SDP type caucas doing a deal with Davey to make him opposition leader. I'm sure Jenrick's more than capable of igniting this catastrophe.

What a shit show. How many MPs are in this group?

The Tory Reform Group, which represents One Nation Conservatives (people on the left of the party) has issued a statement saying it is refusing to back either of the two candidates left in the leadership contest – Robert Jenrick and Kemi Badenoch. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ccxZAu0Yjg

Me neither. Perhaps they’re locksmiths who vote Tory.

Key People https://www.trg.org.uk/about-us/

Looney Atkins is in it.

Looking at their patrons it’s not even a rump.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:00 pm Think lots of this depends on whether Trump wins. If he does, then he's not going to give a fuck about the Good Friday Agreement.

Just like much of their 2019 plans depended on him winning in 2020. No contingency, just hope for the best (as they saw it).

Badenoch collecting some very fine donors.

The Grenfell guy?

It's quite the effort by the media to make out that Lord Alli is worse than the racist guy or the Grenfell guy or Jenrick's untraceable donor.

Actually, what's the worse about Alli? What's the nearest anyone's found to a specific favour or policy change? Given that he's donated for a long time (though not to Corbyn) seems like he's a regular "third way" sort.

Sliding scale of badness. Racists are bad, but are nothing compared to an uppity wog on the make.

https://bsky.app/profile/bestforbritain ... a635lxbu2p

Absolutely astonishing. Why should Ireland sign up to any of this?

Best for Britain
‪@bestforbritain.bsky.social‬
Robert Jenrick reckons he can substitute bits of the Good Friday Agreements - an international multilateral peace treaty - for other bits none of the other parties signed off, because - WAIT FOR IT - "we are the country of habeas corpus and Magna Carta".

We're also the country of Mcdonalds wrappers littering the hedgerows. Just as relevant to the Good Friday Agreement.

If he thinks that Ireland is selectively going to accept that 'we' (England only, but we'll leave that for the moment) are the country of Magna Carta and not also the country of Humphrey Gilbert and the New Model Army and the Black and Tans and the Parachute Regiment...

I'm reminded of the end of Ocean's Thirteen, when Al Pacino's villain threatens to bring the toughest gangsters in America down on Clooney and co. His reply: "Yes, and we know them just as well as you, and they like us."

Can’t Abdul Al-terrorist declare himself a Freeman of the Land to avoid deportation because of the Magna Carta?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:12 pm https://bsky.app/profile/bestforbritain ... a635lxbu2p

Absolutely astonishing. Why should Ireland sign up to any of this?

Best for Britain
‪@bestforbritain.bsky.social‬
Robert Jenrick reckons he can substitute bits of the Good Friday Agreements - an international multilateral peace treaty - for other bits none of the other parties signed off, because - WAIT FOR IT - "we are the country of habeas corpus and Magna Carta".

I would love to see Pugsley giving us a brief resumé of those two things...

SENTEEN MILYUN BIGGIST VOAT EVAH LEST WE FERGET!

Jenrick is a grammar school supporter, I see. Say what you like about Gove, he realised that “I’ll bring back secondary moderns” wasn’t a winning slogan.

Funny to think that Theresa May went so strongly for grammar schools. Don't think she mentioned them afterwards. Obviously a Nick Timothy policy. Wonder if Jenrick and Timothy will team up on them in the future.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:25 pm
I would love to see Pugsley giving us a brief resumé of those two things...

He knows he's talking rubbish. Law degree, LLB and worked at a City solicitor.

A good cheap story for some journo would be to ring up people who taught/managed a politician talking this sort of rubbish. Then again if anybody did that, it would probably be "balanced" with Steven Barrett, lawyer regular on GB News and the Spectator.