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If you chat as much shit as David Icke you are bound to get something right eventually.

... a nice picture for the necrophilic Western consciousness

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61008293

I eagerly await some Trot Twat coming out with that.

There's a strong element in the Russian (state) mythos that the West is absolutely corrupt and mired in every sin.

It's fantastically stupid, frankly.

RedSparrows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:19 pm There's a strong element in the Russian (state) mythos that the West is absolutely corrupt and mired in every sin.

I miss Radio Tirana. They hated the West *and* the Russians.

David Icke in 1982, 40 years ago, talking about Liverpool beating Birmingham City 1-0. Unless you are blind or naive you can plainly see it is

Poland taking a robust stance on Russia's nonsense.

Vlad's boys once again missing the implications of the information age.

Your war crimes are now available on smartphone, domestic drone or radio intercept.
The "Molotov breadbasket" bullshit simply won't wash in the light on modern evidence gathering.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:34 am Vlad's boys once again missing the implications of the information age.

Your war crimes are now available on smartphone, domestic drone or radio intercept.
The "Molotov breadbasket" bullshit simply won't wash in the light on modern evidence gathering.

Yehbut "Crisis Actors..."

Meanwhile on the exchange rates now £1 = ₽100, slightly better for the Rouble than this time two months ago - any talk of the Russian Ruble being essentially worthless is, for now at least, redundant.

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from ... UB&view=1Y

https://granta.com/russia-verge-nervous-breakdown/

An informative read to help us understand why Russians are so pathetically brainwashed and ready to believe anything their government feeds them.

Very interesting, thanks.

The victim complex is an odd one. 'We're so downtrodden and weak and hard done by; we're also the best just you try and cross us'.

There's something telling, imo, in the fact that one of the most common surnames in Russia is Смирнов, from comes from смирный 'meek, quiet'. Not that I subscribe to essentialism, but it's rather evocative, no? I suspect it derived from religious notions, but still...

It's also interesting that same learned helplessness took root in the same country as that of the Russian radical intelligentsia and the revolutions - abortive and otherwise - from 1825 to 1917. There's a very interesting dynamic to be teased out between Soviet dynamism and Soviet resignation.

I think a lot of people underestimate how fucked up Russia is.

Nigredo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:52 pm https://granta.com/russia-verge-nervous-breakdown/

An informative read to help us understand why Russians are so pathetically brainwashed and ready to believe anything their government feeds them.

That's a good read; thank you.

Nigredo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:52 pm https://granta.com/russia-verge-nervous-breakdown/

An informative read to help us understand why Russians are so pathetically brainwashed and ready to believe anything their government feeds them.

Reading that tract there are certain comparisons that can be clearly made with a lot of members of the current Tory government and other fellow companion/travelers that would like to similarly browbeat the great British unwashed masses and make them appreciate it while living the general life of Riley's "Fuck You" themselves - and they're already partly down this path. They're still a bit of time to reverse this, but the state of the UK media is the single biggest obstacle to stopping this "Russofacation" in it's tracks.

RedSparrows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:25 pmThe victim complex is an odd one. 'We're so downtrodden and weak and hard done by; we're also the best just you try and cross us'.

Utterly no different in outlook to the vast masses of Brexshitters (long) before & after the 2016 referendum. Summed up along the lines of "We're better than the EU, and it's not fair that they try to take poor little us on!"

Ideals of flawless Nationalistic Exceptionalism are fucking poisonous - there might be an exception, but I've not seen it yet.

Wasn’t keen in the current climate comparing Brexit with Russian nationalism’s bogus victimhood and fantasy revivalism stemming from post imperial bitterness. But the parallels are screaming at you.

Wait, what?!

Who's this goon? We learn from this journalist that people supporting Ukraine are bad because they're on the same side as the government. And that one bloke he met said something a bit rash about direct intervention- this guy is apparently pro-nuclear war. If Putin launches a nuke on the basis of that, then I'm not sure talking peace with him is going to be all that easy either.

He’s been retweeted by Bastani, and in turn retweeted that. So as far as the sneering circlejerk of commentators who’ll blame anyone but whose fault it is and think anyone who disagrees with their exact position is a full-blown Tory goes, it’s a full houses.

It's noticeable too how parochial this sort of stuff is. Looking at the countries arming Ukraine, there must be a fair bit of social democratic support for it. Yet read this lot and you'd think Sir Keir and Paul Mason were on some sort of Richard Nixon mission.