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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:01 pm
by davidjay
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:19 am
davidjay wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:43 pm All this being equal they're looking at ten years in Opposition. I can't imagine any of the current front runners being content with wasting time in the Shadow Cabinet when there are consultancies and directorships to be had,
Nonetheless, I don't think you turn down LOTO. It comes with a handy salary supplement. And if you think "fuck it. I'll wait 10 years", then you run the risk of being eclipsed by a Cameron figure who looks fresher than you do.

Don't think there's anything to stop other Shadow Cabinet figures from having outside earnings. William Hague for instance was allowed to.
I think it's more a case of getting out of politics altogether and earning big money rather than sitting on the sidelines being forgotten.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:33 pm
by Samanfur
Abernathy wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:52 pm Yes, I remember Dan Quayle. Total chump.

Mind you, Donald Trump makes Dan look like Roosevelt.
Quayle was a chump in office, but I can't forget these days that he was also the person that Mike Pence 'phoned for advice about what to do on January 6th, when Trump wanted him to refuse to certify the election result.

If Quayle hadn't assured him that he should tell Trump where to go, we'd probably've been looking at an even bigger mess.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
My main experience of Quayle was the 1992 Vice Presidents debate. He was actually better than his reputation, from memory. Then again that might have been because Ross Perot's vice president candidate, James Stockdale, had apparently had no media training at all.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha.

The OBR know that the spending projections for after the election are bollocks. Unlike in 2015, they're calling it out.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:16 pm
by Youngian
Sir David replied: "8/10 if you'd asked me a year ago I'd have said 6"

At no point ever has Davis claimed Brexit was six of one and half a dozen of the other. So full of shit it’s pointless interviewing him.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:25 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Our old favourite. Jake Berry. It's almost like foreign tourists are treated different to people who've sought asylum or something.

The Minister can make a direction anyway, like they did over the Rwanda Plan. The Home Office can't stop it.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:11 pm
by davidjay
I wonder how many of those people saw anything except an airport, a hotel and the view from the window of the coach taking them from one to t'other and back again two weeks later?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:36 pm
by kreuzberger
I wonder, too, how many have read the current and recently softened FCO travel advisory which, in a nutshell, boils down to, "fuck that for a game of soldiers."

The first time I was there was during the hiatus between 300 miners losing their lives and the march across the "new" bridge by Fene and Gala fans. The mood was nothing if not twitchy.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I agree with Ned.

When we can't see our way out of a parking space because of one of these sodding things, the overriding feeling isn't "envy".


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:12 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Good bloke, Ned.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yeah, his autobiography is a nice read.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:43 pm
by Samanfur
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:25 pm Our old favourite. Jake Berry. It's almost like foreign tourists are treated different to people who've sought asylum or something.
Once again, I'm ashamed to be represented in parliament by this waste of carbon.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:22 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Samanfur wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:43 pm
Once again, I'm ashamed to be represented in parliament by this waste of carbon.
I've got Bill Wiggin, who's probably worse but at least keeps his head down.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Mr Devenish again. Didn't Jacob Rees Mogg say much the same thing about ID? And the change to FPTP for mayors was obvious sharp practice. The whole point of the system before was that when only one person is being elected, it's preferable to test the breadth of their support.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:34 am
by Crabcakes
Kwarteng also now bottling it and not standing again. Whoever the next Tory leader is, they won’t even be able to choose from the z-listers at this rate.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:39 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Sam Freedman makes it 59 standing down (including the 4 who are independents). Reckons it could be 100 by the election time, but I don't see that.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
What's the next generation going to be like? On this evidence, not great.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:14 pm
by Abernathy
The sheer, sumptuous irony of Liz Truss -Liz Truss - fronting any organisation with the word "popular" in its title. :lol:

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The MRP in this constituency had Lib Dems and Con on 32%. I think that's probably optimistic but it's an example of how we need Ed Davey to resign or improve his game.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:36 pm
by Watchman
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:10 pm What's the next generation going to be like? On this evidence, not great.

Anti-lockdown, surely that’s last year’s thing, unless she’s expecting another “plague”