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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:27 pm
by Youngian
That’s quite a take. History will forget Jenrick long before his record’s revisited. It’s doubtful if even Mrs Jenrick will say anything nice about him.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Is it me or have the Conservative retirements slowed down? Anyway, one more, the relatively sane Oliver Heald (North East Herts). The way things are going the Tories will be rounding up activists from the Red Wall to send them to campaign in the Home Counties.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:38 pm
by davidjay
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:58 pm
Is it me or have the Conservative retirements slowed down? Anyway, one more, the relatively sane Oliver Heald (North East Herts). The way things are going the Tories will be rounding up activists from the Red Wall to send them to campaign in the Home Counties.
I think all the ones that were going have gone by now; getting in early to put the right feelers out. Directorships don't offer themselves.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:57 am
by mattomac
I think there is a believe that they can share everything in public and yet polling is so out they will be re-elected.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Either she's very stupid, or this says something not very flattering about the party's base.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:04 pm
by Youngian
Just saying you have a trade deal is Brexit crack to the membership and they’re due for a fix.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
If onlly this chap had been in the Cabinet with responsibility for local government. I seriously mean that, things would be much better. Only Eric Pickles was in the Cabinet, not David Higham. LOL.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:51 am
by Youngian
No one in this government deserves to be paid. You can purchase a semi detached in Freeman’s constituency for under £180K
A Tory former minister has revealed that he quit the role last year because he could not afford rising mortgage repayments on a ministerial salary of nearly £120,000.
George Freeman resigned as science minister in November amid Rishi Sunak’s Cabinet reshuffle.
In a Substack blog post last week, he wrote: “Why did I stand down?
“Because my mortgage rises this month from £800pcm to £2,000, which I simply couldn’t afford to pay on a Ministerial salary. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 35549.html
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:17 am
by soulboy
A quick Google search later
On a £120,000 salary, your take home pay will be £72,950 after tax and National Insurance. This equates to £6,079 per month and £1,403 per week.
The Party of Fiscal Responsibility and they have ministers who can't get by on a bag a week after their mortgage payment.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:22 am
by Bones McCoy
Wonder how much of that is buy to let on former caahncil properties.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:36 am
by Tubby Isaacs
He ought to have a word with the Chancellor. There's a pretty ridiculous marginal rate of tax for people on his income.
But the idea he can't afford to live on £72,000 is ridiculous.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:37 am
by Andy McDandy
Buried in his statement is something about a painful divorce, and the cost of caring for his parents. Some sympathy, but looking at his record in government (he described people trying to enforce the NMW as being driven by the politics of envy, for instance), that's mitigated by a feeling that he's reaping what he sowed.
Besides, he was the guy behind the Tory Glastonbury idea so ha ha ha and fuck him.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:39 am
by Watchman
I’m confused, if you’re struggling to pay something, would your first action be to give up a substantial income stream?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:24 am
by Tubby Isaacs
He means that he's going to get more lucrative work, I presume. Though I'd have thought ACOBA might have something to say about that.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:30 pm
by Crabcakes
Labour a hair’s breadth away from polling at 50%. Sunak has got to be on the very thinnest of ice now.
https://www.threads.net/@uk.political.n ... BiNWFlZA==
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ed Davey ought to be heading out the door too on that evidence.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:46 pm
by Crabcakes
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:09 pm
Ed Davey ought to be heading out the door too on that evidence.
I suspect the fact ED is caught up in the PO scandal is behind the 8% LD drop. I have some limited sympathy for Ed Davey as getting in bed with the Tories was Nick Clegg’s ego’s decision ultimately, but the Tory coalition really is the gift that keeps on taking. (Though that sympathy runs out pretty fast based on his inaction in the very role that could have done something.)
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Don't particularly blame him for the Post Office scandal. Any minister is going to rely on the Post Office in that situation. But as others have pointed out, he wouldn't allow that to anybody else. I think a new leader freshen things up nicely.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:19 pm
by Youngian
Not entirely fair for Davey to be stuck up but he has. He’s in danger of ballsing up the LDs’ one job, maximising tactical voting to defeat Tories where Labour can’t win.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:45 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is some of the most pathetic grandstanding I've ever seen.
Labour MP in saying something a report didn't find evidence of- shock! This like some kid who makes up a new rule for playground cricket.