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Surely he knows what this will do, he doesn't seem particularly good at politics.

Saying that he was Boris Johnson's bag carrier up until Javid went and was seriously overpromoted as Chancellor.

Probably not so much he knows what it will do as Johnson’s chums know what it could look like, and so are leaking the shit out of it.

The Whitehall source said: "Wars aren't won [by dashboards]. Wars are won on instinct. At the start of this it was Boris (Johnson) sitting down and saying: 'Let's just go for this.' So Rishi needs to channel his inner Boris on foreign policy though not of course on anything else."

So buccaneering Boris’s instincts were telling him to cut and run on Russia by making an unexpected decision on Ukraine. After weighing it up.

Watching him at the Select Committee.

What an oily cunt.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:36 pm Watching him at the Select Committee.

What an oily cunt.

Thread. Some of the articles're paywalled, but the summaries'll give you the gist:

I see this guy includes among his greatest hits badgering David Cameron to do a “renegotiation” with the EU.

That load of time wasting bollocks was an absolute gift to Vote Leave.

It gets better/worse:

Rishi Sunak bans new ethics chief from starting his own investigations into ministers

The Committee on Standards in Public Life had called for the new adviser to be given extra powers so he could decide himself whether to investigate ministers, rather than having to rely on being given permission by the PM. But Mr Sunak has refused.

Dave Penman, the general secretary of the FDA which represents senior civil servants, said: “We have a new Independent Adviser on Ministers’ Interests in Sir Laurie Magnus but the same old problems, as Rishi Sunak has ignored calls from the Committee on Standards in Public Life to allow for independent investigations.

“The Prime Minister retains a veto over investigations into his minister’s conduct and is the sole arbiter of the Ministerial Code, including any sanctions.

“How will this give civil servants the confidence to come forward?

“The new foreword to the re-issued Ministerial Code now makes no mention of the fact bullying and harassment should not be tolerated. Even Boris Johnson did that.

“Since Sunak became Prime Minister, one minister has resigned amid allegations of bullying and another is currently subject to eight separate complaints."

Samanfur wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:46 pm Thread. Some of the articles're paywalled, but the summaries'll give you the gist:

Any business person who signed that is either a fire sale disaster capitalist, a crook or right wing populists drifting from their wheelhouse on an ego trip. One of Farage’s talents is making politics simple so simple people can understand it and feel very clever.

Rishi showing the common touch

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... meless-man

Rishi Sunak has been criticised over an awkward exchange with a homeless person while volunteering at a soup kitchen in front of television cameras.

The prime minister visited a shelter on Friday, where after a brief exchange he asked the man whether he worked in business. The man replied that he was homeless. Sunak then discussed his background in the finance industry and asked if it would be something the man would “like to get in to”.

The man replied: “I wouldn’t mind, but I don’t know, I’d like to get through Christmas first.”

He explained that he hoped a charity would find him some temporary accommodation so he was not on the street for Christmas.

Labour’s deputy leader, Angela Rayner, described the exchange as excruciating, and the Labour MP Stella Creasy said: “Watching this I am concerned that the prime minister thinks homeless means ‘doesn’t have a country pile at the moment’.”

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:54 am
Any business person who signed that is either a fire sale disaster capitalist, a crook or right wing populists drifting from their wheelhouse on an ego trip. One of Farage’s talents is making politics simple so simple people can understand it and feel very clever.

Probably just negligent cake-ism. That 2013 letter, urging Cameron to renegotiate was when the saner Tories were trying to hold some sort of front v UKIP. Business leaders urging renegotiation was the last thing they needed.

The inevitable Tory bot assault defending Sunak has been amusing. It's perfectly normal to ask a man in a homeless shelter where he works.

The way those cunts are ruining this country it will be normal for working people to live in homeless shelters.

Not the first PM bad at small talk but they pick it up as a prerequisite for the job. Voters may conclude you’re not up to much else.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:14 pm Not the first PM bad at small talk but they pick it up as a prerequisite for the job. Voters may conclude you’re not up to much else.

They'll excuse him as not being very confident at talking to people, like that isn't the major prerequisite for being Prime Minister. If you're unsure around some poor bloke in a shelter, how the fuck will you negotiate with Mister President?

Thing is, this isn't some self made person but someone so - not just rich but privileged - that the concept of not being at least comfortably off is anathema to them. It's like Cameron and his bread maker all over again. If you're homeless, buy another home. Broke to them means no notes in the wallet, and the inconvenience of finding an ATM.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:53 am Thing is, this isn't some self made person but someone so - not just rich but privileged - that the concept of not being at least comfortably off is anathema to them. It's like Cameron and his bread maker all over again. If you're homeless, buy another home. Broke to them means no notes in the wallet, and the inconvenience of finding an ATM.

I'm reminded of those costume dramas that feature penniless families, living in grand houses, platoons of servants and dressing nicely at the society balls.

To be fair, land rich and cash poor was a thing (the plot of Atonement is heavily influenced by it), especially after inheritance taxes were introduced, and a massive mansion could be a real white elephant. But this isn't either.

These people aren't anything poor, or at least not anything material. They are seriously, obscenely rich, and getting richer by the day. In the time Sunak was in that shelter his wife's wealth would have increased by a month's average salary.