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Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:07 am
by RedSparrows
Where's the response to poll questions 'This shit is far too complicated for such pat responses'?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:06 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Well, well.

NI is actually progressive in terms of income. But Rose is right too.


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Another of those irregular verbs

We launch a new era in British politics.
You lot break promises and raise taxes because you're idiot lefties.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:41 pm
by Bones McCoy
I rely have no idea who Matt Goodwin is, and I don't think my life would suffer is he ceased to be.

The lady a couple of frames up says he is a political scientist.
I've news for you all: Scientists do more than shitposting on Twitter.

A thought experiment for you all: What do you think Einstein would have said about Twitter?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:53 pm
by Boiler
Bones McCoy wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:41 pm A thought experiment for you all: What do you think Einstein would have said about Twitter?
"You'd better watch out, you'd better beware?"

(with apologies to Landscape)

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:17 pm
by Bones McCoy
Boiler wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:53 pm
Bones McCoy wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:41 pm A thought experiment for you all: What do you think Einstein would have said about Twitter?
"You'd better watch out, you'd better beware?"

(with apologies to Landscape)
Can anybody confirm whether Landscape wrote the theme tune for The Bill?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:57 am
by Boiler
If anyone could, it'd be TWA.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:28 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Remember, chaps. Boris Johnson has definitely sealed Labour's fate by "leaning left on economics". Except in the event that he hasn't, and leaks votes on both sides. Professor Matt said so.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:23 pm
by mattomac
I suppose he gets to retweet one of them in a few years time claiming he was right in some sense.

He has avoided the mistake of the American election in which he was confident of Trump’s victory, that period of a few weeks once Biden had won was quite nice as these blowhards had a 2 week period off.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:50 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He blocked Pat Sturgis for pointing out that he predicted Remain would win.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:39 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Here he is again. Does he actually say this stuff in tutorials? Or is purely for the consumption of his online following? And of course Barnier pursuing the negotiating mandate from the EU member states isn't the same thing as Barnier saying something as candidate in French elections anyway. The EU may or not tell President Barnier, if that's what he becomes, to fuck off anyway.


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Don't want to count any chickens, least of all in Norwegian, but will be interesting to see the reaction if this happens from Rob Ford's former co-author.


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:00 pm
by The Weeping Angel
This is desperate.


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:59 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Where's the right populist surge?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:02 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:59 pm Where's the right populist surge?
It seems to have failed to launch.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:11 pm
by mattomac
On the flip side the latest would suggest it’s their best performance since 2005.

Got to hurt when you nail yourself so close to one set viewpoint that you can’t change your mind.

With the greens and left also in the mix this is a good result for a social Democratic Party in a major nation.

Then again it’s not the first if consider most of what Biden is saying. The centre left are finally being looked at again.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:26 am
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:59 pm Where's the right populist surge?
Matt explains his position. Me neither. Serious academics have no problem changing with the facts and dissecting their own analyses. Goodwin bet the house on being a respected pundit with his finger on the pulse of a new nativist paradigm. Silly man.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:29 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:26 am [
Matt explains his position. Me neither. Serious academics have no problem changing with the facts and dissecting their own analyses. Goodwin bet the house on being a respected pundit with his finger on the pulse of a new nativist paradigm. Silly man.
Yep. Note how his onetime co-author didn't do that.

It's like somebofy (Iain Macleod?) said of Enoch Powell. You could see him as fellow traveller, but I prefer to get off before the train crashes through the station buffers.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:53 pm
by mattomac
Thing with the AFD is, there is always going be a party like that even in Germany especially after the reunification. There stronghold remains a certain area in the East (I believe the old Bavaria “von” lot).

A presence that’s stagnated and not branched out isn’t really going anywhere in arguably an election which was more open than previous ones. It’s like Vox in Spain, they’ve had a high mark but now seem to trundle on at about 15%.

I do feel it’s kind of missed here in Britain as the Tory party has done what the Republicans have done and basically aped the worse excesses of the far right (especially the Republicans).

Even in Italy, Lega have slowly nosed dived all year, these parties will exist, sadly that’s the climate that’s developed but a repeat of 2017 when there was more to play for is rather poor and says stagnation, maybe Spain and Germany have similarities that are not repeated elsewhere but in Norway the Eurosceptic party failed to do much and was it the Dutch or the Austrian where they made no head way.

Le Pen’s even been slowly diving since the beginning of this year and that’s not particularly against a popular incumbent. To say they have a presence, they always have. They just change their names slightly and grow a beard or something (not in Le Pen’s case). It’s not really serious analyse, BNP we’re replaced by UKIP, Reform or the Brexit Party replaced UKIP, the Tories aped some of that and took some votes but it’s still quite obvious that some of that vote won’t go out and vote for the Tories. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if they suffer as much as Labour do on GOTV next time out.

Goodwin has tried to propose this as some massive shift but if I’m honest the only proof of that is in America (who still voted in Biden who has tagged a fair bit to the left so far, let’s face it, stop the war should have cheered American withdrawal, it’s what they want) and the UK who included Jeremy Corbyn one if not thee worst leader of the Labour Party against populist Bojo in an election that had one issue that Corbyn was forever fudging because frankly he wasn’t good enough to lead a party on a leave ticket when most of it was Remain.

I kind of miss the two weeks when he went silent after Biden won.